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8545Re: [civilwarwest] Re: Understanding Vicksburg

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  • Michael Mason
    Nov 16, 2001
      "Who cares",isn't what Grant felt.Grant's role model,Zach
      Taylor always got by with what he had,Grant was doing the same.But had anything gone wrong,this campaign could
      have been a disaster.By the way 137yrs ago.The Western
      Army headed east,on Sherman's March to the Sea.
      The Baron




      On 16-Nov-01, carlw4514@... wrote:
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      I guess I knew that I was going to get clobbered LOL. Since it's pure <BR>
      speculation I can't really defend myself except to say that in <BR>
      military matters it seems that there are certain things that just <BR>
      aren't overlooked by professionals. One always has reserves. One does <BR>
      not get himself into a situation where retreat is impossible, even if <BR>
      fully confident that retreat is not in the cards. One does <BR>
      not try to "live off the land" indefinitely. Certainly "living off the <BR>
      land" gives the appearance that one has thrown caution to the winds, <BR>
      but I sincerely doubt that this was the case with Grant. There is a <BR>
      point at which "living off the land" is no longer possible; he simply <BR>
      couldn't allow it to happen that he would get stalemated east of the <BR>
      Big Black. Subordinate to Banks, say, beats being out of ammo and <BR>
      starving; Porter had warned him that the transports were not making <BR>
      the trip back up the Mississippi; would he have blown this off as "who <BR>
      cares?" This bothering anybody else?<BR>
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      --- In civilwarwest@y..., "Dave Smith" <dmsmith001@y...> wrote:<BR>
      > --- In civilwarwest@y..., carlw4514@y... wrote:<BR>
      > > I do think, though, that Grant had an exit strategy, should things <BR>
      > > not go so well; no one seems to know or say what that was, to my <BR>
      > > knowledge. I have my own guesses - pure speculations - that at one <BR>
      > > point he could fall back and join Banks, or at one point actually <BR>
      > > go <BR>
      > > north and crush Fort Pemberton and be back to getting regular <BR>
      > > supplies. Both scenarios would have meant a longer war as his <BR>
      > > noted brilliance shortened it.<BR>
      > <BR>
      > Carl,<BR>
      > <BR>
      > With all due respect, Fort Pemberton was not going to work - <BR>
      > especially a movement north through hostile country - no supply <BR>
      line, <BR>
      > no way to replenish ammunition, and no way to use the rail lines.� <BR>
      He <BR>
      > would have been dead meat.<BR>
      > <BR>
      > Fall back and join Banks?� And become subordinate to Banks?� I doubt <BR>
      > that, too.� A portion of the movement on Jackson was simply to avoid <BR>
      > doing that.<BR>
      > <BR>
      > Dave<BR>
      > <BR>
      > Dave Smith<BR>
      > Villa Hills, KY<BR>
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