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46870Re: [civilwarwest] Retreat and Fall Back

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  • Bob Taubman
    Dec 20, 2010
      "You can have your own opinion, but you can't have your own facts.", Senator Patrick Moynahan (the wording may not be exact, but the meaning is)
      By making misleading statements you diminish your credibility.  There was no retreat, there was no being forced to fall back.  The situation Ms. Swan describes is not in any way like Thomas at Mill Springs.  There was no longer an enemy in front of him nor was there an iminent threat, he was not lacking arms or materiel.    If you can show what factors put Thomas in a position that he was "forced to fall back" or "retreat", then please, present them.
      But don't give us that old song and dance "Only to Grant - never to ol'Slow Trot!  Grant's situation was entirely different all factors considered.  
      Your dog ain't hunting. 

      From: Bob Huddleston <huddleston.r@...>
      To: civilwarwest@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Mon, December 20, 2010 5:00:22 PM
      Subject: Re: [civilwarwest] Retreat and Fall Back

      Only to Grant -- never to ol' Slow Trot! :>)

      Take care,


      Judy and Bob Huddleston
      10643 Sperry Street
      Northglenn, CO  80234-3612

      “There must be more historians of the Civil War than there were generals fighting it, and, of the two groups, the historians are the more belligerent.” David Donald, “Refighting the Civil War,” Lincoln Reconsidered (New York, 1956), 82.

      On 12/20/2010 1:50 PM, Patricia Swan wrote:
      > It may all be a matter of semantics, but it seems to me that this being
      > the anniversary of Confederate General Earl Van Dorn's raid on Grant's
      > supply base at Holly Springs, it might be a timely illustration. After
      > the raid, Grant could no longer sustain his troops, his supplies at
      > Holly Springs having been largely destroyed and the railroad down to
      > Mississippi having been disrupted. One could say, and some do write,
      > that Grant retreated. Others say that he was "forced to fall back" to
      > Tennessee. Do these terms apply equally well to what Grant did, or is
      > one or the other more apt?


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