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37119RE: [civilwarwest] "Peremptory" orders

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  • Bob Taubman
    Feb 1, 2006
      Why was it necessary to change the date of Rosecran's promotion in order to give him seniority over Thomas?  If it was as cut-and-dried as you make it appear, why the subtrefuge?

      Tom Mix <tmix@...> wrote:
      But in final analysis, it appears that was wrong. He was soon passed over in
      favor of Rosecrans. A soldier can elect to not follow an order but he does
      so at his own peril. Thomas' delayed and nearly lost the opportunity of
      higher command.
      However, he viewed it, he was wrong. The proof? When Buell was finally
      replaced, it wasn't by Thomas but Rosecrans.
      The President determines the true meaning of the order and Thomas'
      interpretation did not equate to the C.I.C.'s.
      Rosecrans got the job that Thomas did not take.

      -----Original Message-----
      From: civilwarwest@yahoogroups.com [mailto:civilwarwest@yahoogroups.com] On
      Behalf Of josepharose
      Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 11:08 PM
      To: civilwarwest@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [civilwarwest] "Peremptory" orders

      --- In civilwarwest@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Mix" wrote:
      > I believe Buell felt the orders were peremptory as well. He quickly
      > to turn over command. Right?
      > Tom

      Mr. Mix:

      No. Just because someone followed an order, doesn't automatically
      make it peremptory.

      As Mr. Bruner stated, "There is a 'clear' difference between a 'clear'
      order and a peremptory order," although I would add that it's not
      always clear when an order is peremptory.

      In that vein, Thomas, through Baldy Smith, argued against one of
      Grant's "peremptory" orders at Chattanooga, as it could have led to
      the destruction of the AotC. Grant didn't object until long
      afterwards, when he intimated that Thomas had erred.


      P.S. per.emp.to.ry adj.
      1. Putting an end to all debate or action: a peremptory decree.
      2. Not allowing contradiction or refusal; imperative: The officer
      issued peremptory commands.
      3. Having the nature of or expressing a command; urgent: The
      teacher spoke in a peremptory tone.
      4. Offensively self-assured; dictatorial: a swaggering, peremptory

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