13704Re: Nathaniel Banks [east vs west]
- Aug 31, 2002--- In civilwarwest@y..., "carlw4514" <carlw4514@y...> wrote:
> -as far as the disposition of troops in 1862, the fact is that theAs you pointed out, the responsibility was not Banks--he had been
> Union made the classic military mistake in VA of splitting up into
> small groups that could be defeated independently. I don't care if
> group A was northwest or southeast of group B, the fact is they were
> all in the same general area and could have been combined. Banks,
> however, bore no responsibility for that mistake, but did fail to
> realize the impact on himself.
ordered to send Sheilds away and he had no control over Fremont.
> -What happened to Banks vs Jackson in a nutshell: Banks was pushingup
> [going south] the Shenandoah valley with great ambition to press thecavalry
> left flank of the overall CS defence of Richmond. Jackson used
> to screen the fact that he was stealing a march, using the mountainsSO
> also as a screen, and came in on Banks' rear. Now it is true that
> Banks reacted in time, but barely so, and WAS ADVISED TO HAVE DONE
> MUCH EARLIER BY HIS MILITARY AIDE; Banks foolishly refused to admitlate,
> the mortal danger he had put his army in till it was almost too
> narrowly avoided disaster, and trailing elements in the rush northhe
> took a beating. As David notes, this impacted his later stand, and
> wound up getting routed, leaving Virginia altogether behind theOnce again--routed by a force twice his size commanded by Jackson.
> Potomac River in Maryland.
Name the generals who would not have been routed?
> -In the Red River Campaign, I can't say that I would be the guy toone
> really explain all that happened there, but to interpret the federal
> Victory at Pleasant Hill as an opportunity to rally and defeat the
> Rebs just ignores the fact that the Yanks were stunned, suffering
> defeat, and viewing the P.H. victory as more of a "here we narrowlyto
> avoided disaster." Taylor criticized his own generalship, comparing
> himself to someone in a chess match who cannot envision the changed
> board after the moves have been made. Hopefully someone was around
> point out that he had accomplished a lot without the 3 to 1advantage
> usually advised for someone undertaking an attack; the Yanks hadirreversible
> gotten a bloody nose they hadn't anticipated, were in an
> state of collapsed morale, and couldn't get out of the area fastBanks ambition? He had been ordered to make the expedition over his
> enough. Shreveport was out of danger and Banks' last grand ambition,
> the Genius that scared Napolean [ok, the third] with his invasion of
> Texas, was gone for good.
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