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      WALES: Satanic Cult Victim Breaks Silence to Tell of Childhood Horrors


       

      ” … Members filled their Gwalia Housing Association homes with ancient Egyptian idolatry, held ceremonies in robes and hoods and forced a number of children and vulnerable adults into depraved sex acts. … “


      By Robin Turner
      Wales Online | Mar 13, 2011

      http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/2011/03/13/kidwelly-sex-cult-victim-breaks-silence-to-tell-of-childhood-horrors-91466-28326467/#ixzz1GvCxLMnZ

      A victim of twisted Colin Batley told Wales on Sunday of her anguish as the black magic sex cult leader forced her to put on a satanic symbol and raped her as a teenager.

      Chief Inspector Richard Lewis of Dyfed-Powys Police statement to the press following the guilty verdicts against Colin Batley in the west Wales sex cult case:

      The woman, who is now a mum in her thirties, spoke out after her 48-year-old tormentor was jailed for a minimum of 11 years at Swansea Crown Court and warned he may never see freedom. She spoke on condition of anonymity and revealed the hell she suffered at the hands of a man who was convicted of 11 rapes and numerous child sex crimes over some 20 years living in the West Wales town of Kidwelly.

      Colin Batley

      The jury was told about the cult’s fixation with Egyptology and the works of occult writer Aleister Crowley – and their obsession with wife swapping and sex with younger girls and boys.

      The woman, who was one of the victims who gave evidence against Batley in court, said that he had everyone in the cult under his spell.

      She said:

      He (Colin) was the boss. He barked orders at everybody including me. People just did what they were told. He had Rottweilers that were scared of him but vicious to everyone else. At 15 I had to have sex with Colin. He said it was an initiation into the occult. He said he did not want to do it but it had to be done. He said if I did not follow orders I would be killed. People ‘higher up’ in the cult would do it, he said.

      Ex-Tesco security guard Batley was the self-styled “lord” of the bizarre sect which operated for years in the quiet cul-de-sac of Clos Yr Onnen in Kidwelly, Carmarthenshire. Members filled their Gwalia Housing Association homes with ancient Egyptian idolatry, held ceremonies in robes and hoods and forced a number of children and vulnerable adults into depraved sex acts.

      The victim said she was massively relieved by the guilty verdict and hoped he would never enjoy freedom again.

      “A hundred years would not be enough for Colin Batley,” she said. “But at least now myself and the other victims can start to rebuild our lives outside of the shadow of that contemptible man.”

      She also spoke of a ceremony she witnessed in Kidwelly involving an altar on which salted bread, oil and a goblet of wine was placed. Cult members dressed in white robes held readings of occult texts and later sex took place between the members who disrobed, or in their words, “became sky clad”.

      The woman, who gave evidence in court via a CCTV system so she did not have to face Batley, added she “did not hate Wales” despite what had happened.

      She was originally from London but was brought to Wales by Batley where she was abused and “passed round” to other cult members who had sex with her.

      She said: “He said the occult was strong in Wales.”

      She said she did not know if there were many more victims of Batley who had not yet come forward, but urged them to speak out if they could.

      “Whether there are any more victims in this case, I don’t know, but for the length of time that the abuse went on, it’s highly possible,” she said.

      “I hope to encourage anybody who is a victim to come forward, not just in Colin’s case.

      “If anybody is going through something similar, we hope they will have the courage to come forward and speak to the police.”

      Her husband, who is helping her get over the trauma of her years of abuse said: “We hope to come back to Wales in better times.”

      The shadowy cult built up by Batley came crashing down when three victims approached Dyfed-Powys Police with their complaints.

      The judge, who presided over the sensational five-week case, commended all the witnesses for their bravery in speaking out. After they spoke out, the depravity that had been happening behind closed doors at Clos yr Onnen for almost two decades was finally exposed.

      Colin Batley was revealed as a monster who forced a number of women into prostitution and made them pay him 25% of their earnings. He owned two Rottweiler dogs, Toots (after Tutankhamen) and another named Sekhet after the Egyptian lion god.

      He would read from Aleister Crowley’s works including The Book of the Law, Equinox of the Gods and The Book of Magick.

      On Friday, Batley was given an indeterminate sentence on public protection grounds but will have to serve at least 11 years before he can apply for parole.

      Even then he may “never be released” said Judge Thomas because he will have to prove he is no longer a risk to the public.

      Judge Thomas said it was a “mystery” how jobless, scruffy Batley, who has several missing teeth, managed to control his women followers, who the judge termed “not unintelligent”.

      The judge dismissed The Book of the Law as “a ludicrous document” but accepted that cult members were obsessed with it.

      All the women in the cult had identical Eye of Horus tattoos.

      Marling even had an “altar” comprising of Egyptian cat goddess statues, a painting of the mask of Tutenkhamun and another painting of the god Horus.

      Batley’s wife Elaine, 47, also had a tattoo of Tutankhamen’s face on her arm, a pentagram on her leg and an entire Egyptian script on her back.

      According to one of the victims in the case, Batley’s wife was treated “like a slave” but the judge said she became a willing participant in her husband’s “wickedness”.

      The jury heard how a young boy was tricked into having sex with her and she was jailed for eight years for indecency with children.

      Batley’s long-term lover Jackie Marling, 42, as well as being “besotted” with him, was also obsessed with The Book of the Law, said Judge Thomas, who described her as his “second in command”.

      She wept as she was sentenced to 12 years in jail for offences including aiding and abetting rape.

      Tears also streamed down the face of bespectacled Shelly Millar, 35, who was said by the judge to have been behind “the prostitution” side of the operation.

      Millar, who listed Batley on her mobile phone as “My Lord” was found guilty of indecency with children including a 12-year-old boy and was also described during the case as Colin Batley’s “sex slave”.

      The court heard she earned £2,000 a month as a prostitute in Swansea and gave 25% of her earnings to Batley.

      Judge Thomas told the defendants they were evil.

      “When this case was opened to the jury you Colin Batley were described as evil,” he said. “That in my view is an accurate statement of your character. You set yourself up as the ruler of a sick little kingdom surrounded by three women who danced as your willing attendants regarding you as their master.”

       

      http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/2011/03/10/satanic-sex-cult-paedophile-guilty-91466-28312166/

      AN “EVIL” paedophile and three women are facing years in jail today for establishing a satanic sex cult to abuse children and young adults in a quiet Welsh town.

      Former Tesco security guard Colin Batley, 48, presided over the depraved “quasi-religious” sect which indulged in occult Egyptology-inspired rites from his home in Kidwelly.

      A jury at Swansea Crown Court found him guilty of carrying out a series of perverted sexual acts on children and adults, including 11 rapes.

      Batley was the self-styled high priest of the group, which operated from a series of homes in a quiet cul-de-sac in the seaside Carmarthenshire town.

      He and three female cult members, who wore Eye of Horus tattoos on their arms to signify membership, insisted throughout the five-week trial that no cult had ever existed.

      But the trial jury dismissed that version of events yesterday when they found him guilty of more than two dozen acts of sexual perversion linked to his activities in the cult.

      In total he was found guilty of 35 separate offences including causing prostitution and indecency with children.

      He was warned by the trial judge that he faced a “vast” prison sentence.

      His wife, Elaine Batley, 47, who even had Tutankhamun’s head tattooed on her back, was found guilty of five counts of indecency with children, while co-defendant Shelly Millar, 35, was convicted of two.

      Jackie Marling, 42, Colin Batley’s lover, was convicted of five offences, including aiding and abetting rape, causing prostitution and indecency with children.

      The five-week trial involving the four, who lived at separate addresses in Clos yr Onnen, Kidwelly, was so harrowing, trial judge Paul Thomas QC offered the jury counselling if they needed it.

      The jury took four-and-a-half days to come to their verdicts and were commended by the judge for their role in what he called an “upsetting” case.

      As the defendants were led down the steps to cells after being remanded in custody following the verdicts, Elaine Batley could be heard screaming “I ******* hate you” at her husband. The court then heard crying and sobbing coming from the cell steps.

      Colin Batley, described by prosecutor Peter Murphy QC as “evil and manipulative”, could be seen smiling and at one point laughing as the jury returned guilty verdicts to the string of serous offences he was convicted of doing.

      Judge Thomas, who will carry out sentencing tomorrow, Fri warned them: “All those convicted of offences today are facing substantial prison sentences.”

      Sandra Iveson, 45, who lived at Clos yr Onnen, was exonerated of any wrongdoing after being acquitted of indecency with children.

      A fifth defendant, Vince Barden, 70, of London, not said to have been part of the cult, was acquitted of a single charge of rape. But Barden had already admitted two counts of sexual assault on an under-age girl.

      Both he, Batley and the other cult members will all be sentenced at Swansea Crown Court tomorrow. on Friday.

      The jury yesterday delivered guilty verdicts for almost every offence that the group faced.

      In Batley’s case it included 11 separate rapes, three indecent assaults, causing prostitution for personal gain, causing a child to have sex and inciting a child to have sex.

      The jury also found him guilty of six counts of a serious sexual offence and four counts of possessing indecent images of a child.

      Judge Thomas warned the group they all faced “lengthy jail terms”.

      During the trial, Batley was accused of using the cult as an excuse for sexual depravity.

      The jury heard he moved to Kidwelly from London and was followed successively by Marling and Millar and their partners, neither of whom figured in the trial.

      Cult members would dress in hooded robes during occult rituals which usually took place before group sex.

      A number of houses in the same cul-de-sac were used for the regular cult sex sessions.

      Batley would read from the occult bible, The Book of The Law, written more than a century ago by arch-Satanist Aleister Crowley.

      He would also order cult members to have sex together and ensure that other members were present to film it. The recorded material mentioned during the trial is believed to have been destroyed before his arrest.

      Batley was apparently tipped off by friends in London about the impending raid on his home two days before his arrest.

      But the evidence against him and other cult members proved overwhelming during the trial.

      Batley was said to have used the cult as a form of brainwashing to justify abuse to his victims.

      One schoolboy, now an adult, told the trial Batley had repeatedly abused him as a child.

      A schoolgirl, also now an adult, said she was forced into joining the cult through fear for her life.

      Batley told her a cult assassin would kill her if she did not take part in an elaborate initiation ceremony.

      It started with a 10-minute lecture on the occult by him, but concluded with sex.

      The schoolgirl said she was later ordered to Batley’s home on regular occasions when she would have to give him sex.

      She was also taken to satanic sex parties where she would be passed round to have sex with strangers.

      Giving evidence against Batley via videolink during the trial, one victim claimed all he had to do was “click his fingers” to make a woman strip.

      And she claimed that soon after she met Batley, when she was just 11, he told her to have sex with him or she would “go to the abyss”.

      “I did not want him to do what he was doing, but I did not have a choice because what Colin said was what happened. What Colin said went.”

      Batley was also accused of stepping in to try to prevent a young woman from aborting a baby he believed he may have fathered, so it could be “a child of the occult”.

      Mr Murphy told the jury: “The offences were committed against a background of persistent psychological coercion and fear using the vehicle of the occult. The victims were brainwashed, frightened, they felt they had no choice.”

      The perverted events described in court took place over several decades in both Kidwelly and addresses in London.

      Colin Batley repeatedly denied the accusations against him as he spoke out in his own defence.

      He denied he ran a cult or was in any way a leader. He did admit having an “open” sexual relationship with his wife, enjoying threesomes with co- defendant Jackie Marling.

      The cult was smashed by Dyfed-Powys Police last summer when two victims, a man and a woman, went to them with their stories of abuse at the hands of Batley and the other defendants.

       

      http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/2011/03/10/satanic-sex-cult-paedophile-guilty-91466-28312166/2/#ixzz1Wg2hVyIy

      By Robin Turner

      The evidence heard in the case of this bizarre “black magic” sex cult in the tranquil setting of Carmarthenshire’s seaside town of Kidwelly seemed like something from a horror novel.

      The jury at Swansea Crown Court was told of ceremonies with women dressed in robes, all tattooed with the ancient Egyptian Eye of Horus protection symbol.

      And the quasi-religious sect in which members had “swinging” lifestyles was said to have been influenced by the arch satanist and practitioner of black magic, the late Aleister Crowley.

      Sections from his controversial works The Book of The Law, Equinox of the Gods and The Book of Magick were said to have been read out at shadowy sect ceremonies in members’ homes in the cul-de-sac of Clos yr Onnen.

      At one, an altar was set out with a goblet of red wine, an incense burner and salted bread and sect members later disrobed, or in their words “became skyclad” and had sex.

      Sadly, said Peter Murphy QC, prosecuting, children and vulnerable young adults would become prey to the lust of “evil and manipulative” Colin Batley, 48, whom he named as the sect’s “principal”.

      Five complainants, whose identity is protected by law, came to the trial to describe how they were taken or lured to the homes at Clos yr Onnen and subjected to sex attacks, even on some occasions being forced to have sex while being filmed.

      They were so terrified of Colin Batley they gave evidence via CCTV, some of the female complainants breaking down and sobbing as they recalled what happened.

      They said others, who have not come forward, were also made to perform unspeakable acts.

      Prosecutor Peter Murphy QC said that as the “controlling” leader of the cult, Batley took a 25% cut of any cash other members earned.

      One co-defendant, Shelly Millar, 35, was said to have got through 3,000 clients in a two-year period while acting as a prostitute in massage parlours in Swansea and Bristol.

      He highlighted Batley’s purchase of a £21,000 luxury caravan in February last year using a £3,210 cash deposit, despite having no obvious income.

      Dismissing his role as a feared high priest of his own religion as “a load of rubbish”, Batley claimed he made £10,000 a year breeding pedigree Rottweilers for sale and also bred Siamese cats.

      And he claimed some of his money came from “gambling on the dogs and horses”.

      Despite the horrendous crimes involved, the bizarre nature of the sect led to some lighter moments as barristers reflected on their clients’ dismissal of the sex cult allegations.

      Barrister James Jenkins told the jury: “Just because they had an interest in Egypt it does not mean they went to Asda in chariots.”

      And Kevin Riordan, for Colin Batley, said: “It is not my business to be disrespectful to a client.

      “But judging by his overall intellectual abilities, his looks, his demeanour, is this a modern-day Rasputin?”

      During the trial it emerged that following the defendants’ arrest last summer, a split took place between Colin and Elaine Batley.

      While giving evidence during the trial, she accused her husband of laughing at her from the dock as she stood in the witness box.

      She said: “I feel embarrassed to be married to him”.

      And she added: “I’ve changed, you won’t get the better of me now.”

      She told the court that while she and Jackie Marling had been involved in “threesomes” and she and Marling had a lesbian fling together, she only found out later that her husband and Marling had been having a long-term affair.

      The discovery was made when Marling sent him a birthday card with the words “To my husband” on it.

      Of her marriage, she said on one occasion he sent a photo of her to the Readers’ Wives section of a pornographic magazine and this led to them meeting “other couples for group activities”.

      ...
       

      The cult members

      COLIN BATLEY: leader of the cult

      Grew up in Shoreditch, London.

      Once worked for Tesco as a night security guard and ran a fruit and vegetable stall. Married Elaine 28 years ago. Claimed his late lorry driver father sexually abused him as a child.

      Had a long-standing affair with Jackie Marling and occasionally had “threesomes” involving his wife and Marling.

      Said to be able to “click his fingers” to make a woman strip.

      Asked in court about his fascination for Egypt the 48-year-old just said: “Egypt? I don’t mind Egypt.”

      ELAINE BATLEY

      Grew up in East London.

      Had tattoos including the Eye of Horus on her arm, a pentagram above Egyptian script on her leg, Tutankhamun on her back plus another Egyptian script on her back which the 47-year-old claimed she did not understand.

      When asked if she had ever been to Egypt she said she would like to have gone but had not visited “because of the heat”.

      She also told the court she liked the ancient Egyptians because “they were good to their slaves”.

      Admitted to an affair with Jackie Marling and “a fumble” with Shelly Millar.

      Told the court she was interested in Aleister Crowley and read his work.

      SHELLY MILLAR

      Grew up in Kent. Had an Eye of Horus tattoo on her arm and admitted to having around 3,000 clients as a prostitute during a two-year period working in Swansea and Bristol. Sobbed as the 35-year-old was found guilty of two counts of indecency with children.

      JACKIE MARLING

      Grew up in Poplar, East London.

      Initially denied to police officers that she was a prostitute.

      But the 42-year-old’s car was spotted making regular trips to brothels in the centre of Swansea and Bristol.

      Sported an Eye of Horus tattoo on her arm, had a figurine of a cat goddess in her home plus a drawing of the Mask of Tutankhamun and one of the hawk-headed Egyptian god Horus.

      Had affairs with Colin Batley and Elaine Batley.

      ...

      ‘It’s hard to believe something so sordid and awful was going on within our small community’

      By Rachael Misstear

      AHANDFUL of housing association homes in an overlooked cul-de-sac in sleepy Kidwelly is an unlikely location for a satanic paedophile ring.

      The centre of a black magic inspired sex cult, it was home to a group of sexual deviants who preyed on children.

      But the quiet Carmarthenshire estate could not have had a more contrasting set of residents or homes.

      Clos yr Onnen – within a stone’s throw of the pretty seaside town’s medieval castle – was thrown into the media spotlight last month when five of its residents were exposed as part of a "quasi-religious cult".

      They appeared in court and were yesterday convicted on a total of 47 charges, including rape, indecent assault, forcing a girl to work as a prostitute and inciting a child to have sex.

      But the unassuming suburban setting isand adjoining Rhodfa’r Gwendraeth are also home to a retired bishop and a retired police officer.

      While the owners of dozens of well-kept homes and manicured gardens went about their lives, just a few doors away in run-down properties, children and young adults were being intimidated into having sex.

      The home of cult ringleader Colin Batley, who was des- cribed as an "evil bully" by neighbours, stands in stark contrast to many of the family homes surrounding it.

      With a torn and ragged England flag pinned outside, and two Rottweiler dogs named Seckhet after the Egyptian lion goddess and Toots, short for Tutenkhamun, leaping at the door, many neighbours said they steered clear of Batley and his neglected property.

      The house was where Batley’s own son died during a bizarre sex act three years ago. On February 1, 2008, Damian Batley accidentally hanged himself.

      An inquest heard that the former Asda cashier filmed himself on his mobile phone as he hanged himself.

      Constable Ian Ayres, from Carmarthen CID, said a family member found Mr Batley naked and hanged from his bedroom door. The police were called and when they arrived at the scene they found video footage on his mobile phone.

      Deputy coroner Pauline Mainwaring recorded a verdict of accidental death from hanging.

      She added: "There is no evidence to suggest suicide."

      She confirmed that there were no suspicious circumstances and no-one else was involved.

      George and Cecilia Dawson, who live between homes of the cult members, described them as "evil and twisted", who used their so-called religion as an excuse for sick behaviour.

      "Colin Batley is the most disgusting and vile man you could meet," Mr Dawson told the Western Mail.

      The retired communications rigger said alarm bells started ringing some years before when an allegation of rape was made.

      "We were, of course, concerned, but were not sure if the people involved were making it up," he said.

      Mrs Dawson said the retired couple had been targeted by the group whenever the housing association or police were called to their properties.

      She said: "Our daughter is a police officer and they did not like it when she came to visit us. I think it made them nervous.

      "Batley and one of his friends used to have a van calling regularly, with a consignment of contraband tobacco and, we think, pornography. They used to head off to France on fortnightly trips and sometimes were gone for as long as six weeks. It makes you wonder if part of their cult activity was going on there too."

      Mr Dawson described how Batley, who also had a cat called Rameses, used to walk around the estate with his two dogs, as if to intimidate people.

      "He walked them like they were status symbols, but it was like he was trying to look intimidating," he said.

      "The day of his son’s funeral he was sitting outside his house laughing and joking like he didn’t have a care in the world. It was the sort of behaviour that no normal person could comprehend."

      Mrs Dawson said Elaine Batley and another woman had been seen touching each other in a sexual manner in the local supermarket.

      She said: "There were all kinds of things happening and not of all of it was behind closed doors. That sort of thing is just like twisted exhibitionism."

      The couple said a fireworks party the group organised had gone on into the early hours of the morning one year.

      "Sandra had been around to warn us that they would be having a party and that it would be quite noisy," said Mrs Dawson.

      "The fireworks went on for hours and hours and must have cost an absolute fortune. We couldn’t understand how any of them could afford it."

      Retired firefighter Eddie Clements, who lives just a few houses away from Batley, at nearby Rhodfa’r Gwendraeth, said the community had been shocked by news of the cult.

      He said: "This is such a lovely area and the kind of place where you can leave your property outside and your car unlocked.

      "It is hard to believe something so sordid and awful was going on within our small community.

      "I didn’t know the people involved but you know people’s faces and it is just so strange and hard to take in."

      News of what had been going on under their noses for so long was greeted by many Kidwelly residents with disbelief, shock and unease.

      Even yesterday, few in the deeply conservative community were willing to do much more than express shock at revelations from the trial.

      One man, from Priory Street, spoke of the anger at the way a group of "outsiders" from London had stained the town’s character.

      "Nobody understands how so many of them could come down and all end up living in one place in the town," he said. "They must have planned it somehow. I don’t think Kidwelly is to blame for what has gone on. They kept a very low profile."

      He said he preferred not to give his name because he felt the cult would still be operating in the area.

      But Geraint Thomas, Kidwelly Town Council clerk, predicted that the community would "rise above this awful incident".

      He said: "The first we knew about this matter was when it was publicised in the newspapers. It is fair to say that on reading about it we were shocked and dismayed.

      "This unfortunate matter has put Kidwelly on the map for the wrong reasons as we are continuously endeavouring to promote the town of Kidwelly and its environment in a positive way. We view this matter as a one-off. Kidwelly is a safe and respectable place to live and visit for all ages."

       

      Aleister Crowley’s influence on Colin Batley and his followers

       

      A WELSH expert on the occult said Colin Batley and his disciples weren’t true followers of satanist Aleister Crowley – they were just perverts.

      Oxford-educated Mogg Morgan, of Newport, who runs Mandrake Publishing, said Batley and his followers just blamed the notorious writer for their own moral failings.

      At their homes in Clos yr Onnen, Kidwelly, Batley and his followers laminated copies of texts by Crowley, who died in 1947, so they could be read out.

      Crowley, who established his own cult called Thelema, was known as the “Great Beast”. His favourite saying was: “Do what thou wilt”.

      His fans claim Crowley’s bisexuality, fascination with the occult and use of drugs was just a rebellion against the socially rigid conventions of his time. And he has been cited as an influence by famous figures including Led Zeppelin guitarist Jimmy Page, who bought Crowley’s former home and set up an occult bookshop and publishing house which reprinted some of his writings.

      Page once said: “I feel Aleister Crowley is a misunderstood genius of the 20th century because his whole thing was liberation of the person.”

      But Morgan said of Batley and his followers: “These people are moral cretins. People like Colin Batley may blame the Devil, Satan or Aleister Crowley... , but in the end it is down to their own moral failings. They have misunderstood his Thelemic religion.

      “Thelema aims to develop enlightened, compassionate human beings. But this group’s actions show them to be venal criminals.

      “I doubt they have ever had contact with a genuine Thelemic or Crowleyan group or undertaken the appropriate training in the tradition.

      “Their knowledge of Thelema is superficial and based on unsupervised reading and uninformed secondary sources, perhaps even the media.”

      Morgan, a founder of the Oxford Golden Dawn Occult Society added: “I’m sure I am not alone in my condemnation.”

      As well as being chief executive of Oxford-based Mandrake Publishing, Morgan has also written several novels.

      His most recent book is The Bull of Ombos: Seth & Egyptian Magick II.


    • Robert
      Take out the sensational aspects of child abuse and occult ritual, make the ritual simply smoking crack with clients before sex, then note that pimps find
      Message 2 of 4 , Sep 1, 2011
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        Take out the sensational aspects of child abuse and occult ritual, make the ritual simply smoking crack with clients before sex, then note that pimps find prostitutes and threaten them like the cult leader here to extort them to pay for protection, and we have a lot of that. The coercion and resulting slavery are called "trafficking", as well as the fairly common induction by kidnapping and/or rape and possible transport to another country, holding of passport, but the term trafficking is used for coercive aspects and not just for optional international transport.

        The story is only slightly less shocking without occult and child abuse if we learn that homeless girls are pimped by Ayn Rand and Milton Friedman and Berkley Mafia into forced crack smoking so they can stay awake 24/7 for three or four days and have sex with as many as 20 men a day, comparing that to "3000 in two years" for the biggest hoe in this occult system. Don't forget police corruption and all the rest of the coercive dimensions including frequent death threats. Actually killers can be fairly ritualistic sort of naturally.

        -Bob

        --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Kris Millegan <roadsend@...> wrote:
        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/51506 
      • michael1@midcoast.com
        Thank you, Bob. It is not easy to look straight at the normality of craziness. It is not easy as it tells us more about ourselves than we are ready to hear.
        Message 3 of 4 , Sep 2, 2011
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          Thank you, Bob.
          It is not easy to look straight at the 'normality' of craziness. It is
          not easy as it tells us more about ourselves than we are ready to hear.
          Sensationalizing makes it more 'other' so we can distance outselves.
          m

          > Take out the sensational aspects of child abuse and occult ritual, make
          > the ritual simply smoking crack with clients before sex, then note that
          > pimps find prostitutes and threaten them like the cult leader here to
          > extort them to pay for protection, and we have a lot of that. The
          > coercion and resulting slavery are called "trafficking", as well as the
          > fairly common induction by kidnapping and/or rape and possible transport
          > to another country, holding of passport, but the term trafficking is
          > used for coercive aspects and not just for optional international
          > transport.
          >
          > The story is only slightly less shocking without occult and child abuse
          > if we learn that homeless girls are pimped by Ayn Rand and Milton
          > Friedman and Berkley Mafia into forced crack smoking so they can stay
          > awake 24/7 for three or four days and have sex with as many as 20 men a
          > day, comparing that to "3000 in two years" for the biggest hoe in this
          > occult system. Don't forget police corruption and all the rest of the
          > coercive dimensions including frequent death threats. Actually killers
          > can be fairly ritualistic sort of naturally.
          >
          > -Bob
          >
          > --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Kris Millegan <roadsend@...> wrote:
          > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/51506
          > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/51506>
          >
          >
        • Robert
          Yes, the truth hurts some as we see ourselves . The cult and the policy cult can be played off as analogy against each other both ways, since with both we
          Message 4 of 4 , Sep 2, 2011
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            Yes, the truth hurts some as we see "ourselves". The cult and the policy cult can be played off as analogy against each other both ways, since with both we find the same elite deviant space people at the top. While it seems sensational that the elite deviant pimp extorted 25% from his hoes, it is worth mentioning that in ordinary pimp and hoe enterprises in America today, body, mind, heart and soul are cultishly deployed in selling crack. Low-priced call girls, sneaker hoes, bag lady hoes with children, are giving it all up to sell crack for The Man. Is that a cult? "Where does your money go?", I asked a perennially penniless but money turning hoe. She is only a crack dealer, if I follow her money. Mind control is a terrible thing to waste on selling crack for The Man. Cultists are not just fing for money after all. The house of joy at the rising of the sun begins to look like a fool's paradise, and vice versa. America is a river gambling boat, we're all selling crack as invested but unenfranchised hoes. Is there anything else?

            -Bob

            --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, michael1@... wrote:
            Re: [cia-drugs] Re: Fwd: Post-Modern "Crowleyianity"

            Thank you, Bob.
            It is not easy to look straight at the 'normality' of craziness. It is
            not easy as it tells us more about ourselves than we are ready to hear.
            Sensationalizing makes it more 'other' so we can distance outselves.
            m

            > Take out the sensational aspects of child abuse and occult ritual, make
            > the ritual simply smoking crack with clients before sex, then note that
            > pimps find prostitutes and threaten them like the cult leader here to
            > extort them to pay for protection, and we have a lot of that. The
            > coercion and resulting slavery are called "trafficking", as well as the
            > fairly common induction by kidnapping and/or rape and possible transport
            > to another country, holding of passport, but the term trafficking is
            > used for coercive aspects and not just for optional international
            > transport.
            >
            > The story is only slightly less shocking without occult and child abuse
            > if we learn that homeless girls are pimped by Ayn Rand and Milton
            > Friedman and Berkley Mafia into forced crack smoking so they can stay
            > awake 24/7 for three or four days and have sex with as many as 20 men a
            > day, comparing that to "3000 in two years" for the biggest hoe in this
            > occult system. Don't forget police corruption and all the rest of the
            > coercive dimensions including frequent death threats. Actually killers
            > can be fairly ritualistic sort of naturally.
            >
            > -Bob
            >
            > --- In cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com, Kris Millegan <roadsend@...> wrote:
            > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/51506
            > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/51506>
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