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Book explains "How McCain Could Have Actually Won the 2008 Election."

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  • Peter Dow
    http://www.amazon.com/What-Obama-Democrats-McCain-Didnt/dp/1432742612/ref=cm_cd_pdp?_encoding=UTF8&cdPage=1&cdERR=defaultCred&noLL=1   Product Description Had
    Message 1 of 2 , Feb 1, 2010
      http://www.amazon.com/What-Obama-Democrats-McCain-Didnt/dp/1432742612/ref=cm_cd_pdp?_encoding=UTF8&cdPage=1&cdERR=defaultCred&noLL=1
       

      Product Description
      Had John McCain simultaneously chosen Condoleezza Rice as his Vice Presidential running mate (instead of Sarah Palin) and Mitt Romney as his Chief Economic Advisor coming out of the Convention, the Republicans could have actually won the 2008 Presidential Election; even in the aftermath of the Wall Street Economic Meltdown (based on an objective analysis of Presidential Exit Poll Data). This assertion is primarily based on three highly plausible suppositions that would have emerged, demographically, had Rice been chosen as the Republican Vice Presidential candidate, that could have decisively altered the outcome of the 2008 Presidential Election of Barack Obama.

      In particular, Rice’s presence on the Republican ticket would have cut across and appealed to several crucial demographic constituencies that no other Republican possibly could in 2008 (or, for that matter, in 2012 either). Moreover, the selection of Rice would have averted the devastatingly negative Voter impact of Sarah Palin’s perceived lack of readiness to become President that endured through Election Day. Whereas, had Romney been “onboard” as an equal member of such a political triumvirate paradigm, the frantic and impulsive vacillations displayed by John McCain that excruciatingly transpired in the two weeks following the onset of the Wall Street Economic Meltdown in mid September 2008, need not ever have occurred.

      Further, this book will examine how John McCain and the Republican Party, during the 2008 Presidential campaign, allowed themselves to be essentially handcuffed and effortlessly painted into a corner by Barack Obama and the Democrats on several major campaign issues for which justifiable, principled departures from rigid Republican Doctrine did, and still do, exist today.

      Additionally, the personality traits of both McCain and Obama are analyzed as a basis for projecting their respective presidential crisis decision-making potential; based on observable behavior and reaction to events that occurred during the 2008 campaign. A similar analysis details how both McCain and Obama, at crucial times during the campaign, allowed their respective insecurities and/or petty vindictiveness to cloud and potential jeopardize even their most overriding, single-minded ambition: To be elected President.

      The daunting (and maybe insurmountable) outlook confronting the Republican Party in 2012 and beyond will also be explored. Indeed, for the Republican Party, after 2020, the future looks even more bleak; at which time, if nothing materially changes, the Democrat Party will dominate the White House as the only remaining viable National Political Party.

      As to the immediate future, a valid and objective Voter Expectation of the Republican Party is that their criticism of the Obama Democrat Administration will be accompanied by thoughtful, comprehensive alternative solutions. Moreover, it is axiomatic that Voters will, typically, not opt to “change horses in the middle of the stream” unless 1) the party in power seeking re-election is perceived not only as a troubled presidency (1980: Carter); but, as an additional prerequisite, 2) the opposition party a) has detailed alternative solutions and b) can articulate them (1980: Reagan).








      Product Details


      Paperback: 294 pages
      Publisher: Outskirts Press (September 16, 2009)
      Language: English
      ISBN-10: 1432742612
      ISBN-13: 978-1432742614
       



      Peter Dow comments
       
      I'd have to agree with the Gary Patterson's "What Obama and the Democrats Knew That McCain Didn't: How McCain Could Have Actually Won the 2008 Election" thesis outlined above at least in so far as with Rice on his ticket, McCain would have won.
       
      To declare my interest in this matter, I run Rice for President Yahoo Group and that is why I am commenting here but I don't know Gary Patterson and I have no involvement with his book, nor have I read it.
       
      In April 2008, a poll in the Democratic stronghold state of New York State indicated that a McCain - Rice 2008 ticket would defeat either Obama or Clinton in New York State.
       
      This poll represented a 21% swing towards such a McCain-Rice 2008 ticket from the results in New York State in the 2004 presidential elections when Kerry beat Bush by nearly 20 points.
       
      Assuming such a 21% swing to McCain - Rice could be replicated nationwide, I did an analysis and prediction of the 2008 presidential election result. See below for my predictions of a 46 states landslide victory for McCain - Rice 2008.
       
      So either the McCain camp didn't do the math, they didn't want to win enough to put Condi on the ticket or Condi didn't want to run for VP in 2008.
       
      Why then would more Americans vote for McCain - Rice but not McCain - Palin?
       
      I think because people would only trust President John McCain as a "Chairman of the Board" type of president, setting the overall direction and goals but not as a "Chief Executive" type of president.
       
      Americans agree with McCain's instincts but don't always trust his decisions or hunches.
       
      By picking Palin, McCain was signalling to the American people that he never had any real intention to delegate presidential executive decisions to his inexperienced VP Palin nor to his cabinet members and McCain would govern on his impulses and hunches at the time and he intended to pick a team that never questioned his judgement.
       
      That is the impression that McCain's pick gives - McCain would be number 1 and there wouldn't be a number 2.
       
      The president has his finger on the nuclear button and you want a number 2 who you can trust to say "No, Mr President".
       
      If McCain had picked a strong executive Vice-President such as Condoleezza Rice he would have signalled to the American people that he was content with a "Chairman of the board" role, a "father of nation" type of president who would delegate executive decisions to VP Rice and strong cabinet members with competence to make difficult decisions.
       
      This is why I believe that Americans would have elected McCain - Rice 2008. Americans love John McCain but it is Condoleezza Rice that they trust with the details.
       
      - Peter Dow

      --- On Tue, 16/9/08, Peter Dow <peterdow@...> wrote:


      From: Peter Dow <peterdow@...>
      Subject: [rice-for-president] Can Fox save America from John McCain's pick for VP?
      To: rice-for-president@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Tuesday, 16 September, 2008, 23:46













      Can Fox save America from John McCain's pick for VP?
       
      Did John McCain make the right pick with Sarah Palin for his vice presidential nominee? Who would have been better?
       
      Why would Condoleezza Rice be a better pick for VP nominee for the Republican ticket, better for America and better for the world?
       
      The McCain campaign and the Republican National Convention have accepted Sarah Palin for now and only Fox TV and Fox News Channel can ask them to think again and pick someone else.
       
      Why should Fox News ask McCain to think again? Will the Republican ticket do well and win with Sarah Palin? Will America do well with Sarah Palin as VP? What about if McCain becomes ill and Sarah Palin becomes President, how will America do then?
       
      These are really important questions for Fox News right now. Only Fox now can ask the searching questions that McCain should've asked himself before he made his pick.
       
      So let's just remember the exceptional performance of Condoleezza Rice as the US Secretary of State and then let's see what some people are saying about Sarah Palin as a pick for VP.
       
      Then let's take a look at a prediction which says that a McCain - Rice ticket would win 46 states, a landslide victory for Republicans.
       
      (If you don't see images of Condi here then you can view them on this page - http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/rice- for-president/ )
       

      Jan 19, 2005: Secretary of State-designate Condoleezza Rice speaks during her confirmation hearing before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.


      Jan 28: President Bush listens to incoming Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice at the Swearing-In Ceremony.




      Feb 9: Secretary Rice in Brussels at NATO HQ with Secretary General Mr. Scheffer U.S. Representative R. Nicholas Burns.


      Feb 23: Secretary Rice with American Troops at Wiesbaden Army Airfield, Germany.






      May 10, 2006 Secretary Rice speaks at the Independent Womens Forum upon receiving the Woman of Valor award.






      Jan 11, 2007 The experience to be Vice President. Secretary Rice stands with Sen. Richard Lugar, Ranking Member and Sen. Joe Biden, Chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, now the Dem nominee for VP
       
      An exceptional person who would make an outstanding pick for vice presidential nominee I hope you will agree.
       
      Now let us consider how Sarah Palin is being seen in some quarters -
       
      If you don't see images of Sarah Palin and John McCain here then view the images on this page -
      http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/dumppalin/ message/23
       

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      Now many Fox News viewers would find those Sarah Palin images distasteful and some may find them harmless and satirical but what is the reality?
       
      Does Sarah Palin really have better judgement and more experience than Condoleezza Rice to be Vice President of the United States of America?
       
      Would Sarah Palin be more or less popular than Condoleezza Rice? Who would poll better?
       
       
       
      An analysis of one poll showed a McCain-Rice ticket would win 46 states.
      http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/rice- for-president/ message/1823
       
      I wrote this for Rice for President Yahoo Group way back Sat May 3, 2008
       


      McCain-Rice wins 46 States.
      Hillary-Obama wins 4 states.
       
      Poll analysis predicts a LANDSLIDE VICTORY for McCain-Rice! (was Marist College-WNBC Poll: McCain-Rice ticket wins in New York)


      Now I have examined the figures. New York State is a Democrat stronghold. Kerry beat Bush in 2004 in New York by 18%

      uselectionatlas. org/RESULTS
      http://uselectionat las.org/RESULTS/ data.php? year=2004&datatype=national&def=1&f=0&off=0&elect=0
       
      The poll says McCain-Rice wins by 3% in New York State which makes a 21% swing to the Republicans. Imagine now a 21% swing to McCain-Rice compared to Bush-Cheney ...
       
      To put this in perspective, if McCain-Rice did 21% better in all states compared to Bush-Cheney in 2004, what states would the Democrats win, if they couldn't even win in their democrat stronghold of New York State?
       
      Come on people do the math! The answer I think is -

      McCain-Rice 2008 - 46 states won easy

      Clinton-Obama 2008 - 4 states won maximum
      The Democrats would only win -
      D.C., Massachusetts - if they were lucky they might win Rhode Island and Vermont as well.
       
      Against McCain - Rice, the Democrats would win 2 states for sure, maybe 4 in total, not much more.
       
      All the other states would be won by McCain - Rice, assuming the swing of 21% to McCain-Rice.
       
      The Rice boost to the ticket.
      McCain-Rice is trusted by the voters of left and right and 21% more in New York State than Bush-Cheney was trusted.
       
      Please people MATH, MATH, MATH.
       
      Look at the evidence of the poll and understand that McCain-Rice would be a landslide victory for the republicans.
       
      The Democrats - Dean and the Democrat High Command - are betting everything on the GOP not being able to do the math.
       
      If you can understand the math, and that poll is correct, then McCain-Rice is a LANDSLIDE victory in all states apart from a few.
       
      Why choose a running mate who only adds one or two states to the ticket - when Condi adds almost ALL STATES to the ticket.
       
      MATH PEOPLE!
       
      - Peter Dow
      Rice for President Yahoo Group
      http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/rice- for-president/


      Peter Dow <peterdow@talk21. com> wrote:





      http://www.upi. com/NewsTrack/ Top_News/ 2008/04/10/ poll_mccain- rice_ticket_ wins_in_new_ york/3061/
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      Poll: McCain-Rice ticket wins in New York

      Published: April 10, 2008 at 7:11 AM
      POUGHKEEPSIE, N.Y., April 10 (UPI) -- A Republican ticket featuring John McCain and Condoleezza Rice could be a winner in the Democratic stronghold of New York, a poll suggests.

      The Marist College-WNBC poll indicates a ticket featuring the Arizona senator and the U.S. secretary of state would upend a Democratic presidential ticket of Sens. Hillary Clinton of New York and Barack Obama of Illinois by 3 points, 49 percent to 46 percent, and an Obama-Clinton ticket by 5 points, 49 percent to 44 percent, the college said in a news release.

      The poll comes just days after a leading Republican strategist suggested Rice is working behind the scenes to be on the ticket with McCain, the GOP presumptive nominee, despite Rice's statements to the contrary, CNN reported.

      The Marist-WNBC poll indicated a close head-to-head race with either Democratic presidential nomination contender and McCain. Clinton has support from 48 percent of the respondents, compared with 46 percent for McCain. Obama receives support from 46 percent of the voters, while 48 percent said they favored McCain.

      The survey interviewed 576 registered New York voters April 3-4 and has a sampling error of plus or minus 4 percentage points, the Poughkeepsie, N.Y., college said.
       
      Please click on the link below to view the entire article.
      http://www.upi. com/NewsTrack/ Top_News/ 2008/04/10/ poll_mccain- rice_ticket_ wins_in_new_ york/3061/
       
       

       
      http://www.nypost. com/seven/ 04102008/ news/regionalnew s/rice__mccain_ a_ny_dream_ team_105799. htm
       

      RICE & MCCAIN A NY DREAM TEAM
      By FREDRIC U. DICKER


      April 10, 2008 -- ALBANY - A Republican presidential ticket of John McCain and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice would beat a Democratic ticket of Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama - in either combination - in heavily "blue" New York, a surprising poll showed yesterday.
       
      The Marist College-WNBC survey found a McCain-Rice team ahead of a Clinton-Obama ticket, 49 percent to 46 percent, and an Obama-Clinton ticket, 49 percent to 44 percent.
       
      Without including a hypothetical running mate, the poll found McCain ahead of Obama, 48 percent to 46 percent, but trailed New Yorker Clinton, 48 percent to 46 percent.
       
      "It is quite shocking and it really speaks to how much the Democratic primary battle is spilling over to the electorate," said Marist pollster Lee Miringoff.
      "It doesn't mean the Republicans are going to carry New York in November, but it does mean the Democrats are being hurt right now and would be well advised to bring down the curtain on their battle as soon as possible," Miringoff continued.
       
       




      http://politicaltic ker.blogs. cnn.com/2008/ 04/10/poll- suggests- mccain-rice- ticket-could- win-big/
       


      April 10, 2008
      Poll suggests McCain-Rice ticket could win big
      Posted: 05:42 AM ET




      A McCain-Rice ticket could carry New York, a new poll says.

      (CNN) – Condoleezza Rice has said she has no desire to be John McCain's running mate, but a new poll out Wednesday suggests that duo could beat the Democratic ticket in the bluest of states.
       
      In a new poll conducted by Marist College and WNBC, a McCain-Rice ticket would beat a ticket that includes both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama in New York — a state that reliably votes for the Democratic candidate. (In 2004, John Kerry beat President Bush there by nearly 20 points. In 2000, the margin between Al Gore and Bush was an even higher 25 points.)
       
      But should McCain and Rice team up, the poll suggests the two Republicans would carry New York, defeating a Clinton-Obama ticket by 3 points (49-46 percent) and an Obama-Clinton ticket by 5 points (49-44 percent.)
       
      The poll comes days after a leading Republican strategist suggested Rice, contrary to her own public statements, is engaging in a behind-the-scenes campaign to land a spot on McCain's ticket. Former Bush administration official Dan Senor made the suggestion on ABC Sunday, noting Rice's recent appearance at the weekly meeting of Americans for Tax Reform — a leading organization of Republican insiders — as evidence she is attempting to cozy up to the conservative elite.
       
      That suggestion immediately had Beltway insiders speculating on the potential advantages Rice would deliver, especially in light of the fact the Democratic presidential ticket will either feature a woman or an African-American for the first time in American history.
       
      Rice herself attempted to put the speculation to rest Tuesday, saying, "I very much look forward to watching this campaign and voting as a voter — I have a lot of work to do and then I'll happily go back to Stanford."
       
      But with polls like this, it's likely some Republicans hope she reconsiders.
       
       

      Peter Dow comments -
       
      I smell fear from the Democrats.
       
      If McCain-Rice can beat Hillary-Obama in New York then McCain-Rice can sweep the country - A Landslide!
       
       Am I right, or am I right?  
       
      RUN,
       
      CONDI,
       
      RUN!
       

       
      DREAM
       
      TICKET!
       
      Peter Dow,
      Owner, Rice for President Yahoo Group
      http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/Rice- for-President/
       
       
       
      So after all that if Condi would be better then Sarah, should John McCain not be asked to think again about his pick for VP - and this time pick Condoleezza Rice?
       
      Well before it is too late to change the republican ticket, I am asking Fox News professions and Fox News viewers to really think hard about this because I think if anyone can ask and persuade John McCain to re-think his VP pick it is you.
       
      Well I hope you approve of my attempts to get this very serious question addressed. My personal opinion of course is that John McCain should dump Sarah Palin and pick Condoleezza Rice and these 2 groups on Yahoo which you are invited to join are in support of that idea.
       

      Click to join rice-for-president
      http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/rice- for-president/
       
       
       

      Click to join dumppalin
      http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/dumppalin/
       
      Finally I will leave you with a link to a video of Condoleezza Rice being asked about Sarah Palin, with subtitles added.
       
      Condoleezza Rice on Sarah Palin's experience. With subtitles
      http://uk.youtube. com/watch? v=fcZ_VDScvj0
       
      Yours sincerely,
      Peter Dow
       

















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    • elizabeth compton
      Frankly, John McCain wouldn t have been a better president than what we have in the White House right now. And he s WAYYYY too pro illegal immigration to care
      Message 2 of 2 , Feb 1, 2010
        Frankly, John McCain wouldn't have been a better president than what we have in the White House right now. And he's WAYYYY too pro illegal immigration to care much about the security of the United States.
         
        It's time for John McCain to leave public office COMPLETELY. And I speak as a native Arizonan, someone who actually voted for him, a lifelong Republican, and someone who spent the majority of my voting years believing he had been groomed by Barry Goldwater. Instead, McCain has turned into a RINO, in my opinion.  He doesn't care about the people, only about keeping whatever power he can. The same as most of the political hacks that are in Washington DC.
         
        What a slap in the face to the memory of Barry Goldwater.
         
        John McCain, give it up. Retire while you can still leave office with SOME dignity, though God knows, there isn't much left, as far as I can see.

        --- On Mon, 2/1/10, Peter Dow <peterdow@...> wrote:


        From: Peter Dow <peterdow@...>
        Subject: [Christian Republicans] Book explains "How McCain Could Have Actually Won the 2008 Election."
        To: rice-for-president@yahoogroups.com, blackwomenforobama@yahoogroups.com, gaysfordean@yahoogroups.com, "no name" <george_w_bush_fan_club@yahoogroups.com>, PrayHillaryIntoOffice@yahoogroups.com, progressivesforobama@yahoogroups.com, apfn-1@yahoogroups.com, Black_Republicans_of_America@yahoogroups.com, byucollegerepublicans@yahoogroups.com, christianrepublicans@yahoogroups.com, FILAMGOP-network@yahoogroups.com, "gop2008@yahoogroups.com" <gop2008@yahoogroups.com>, homeforreluctantbushvoters@yahoogroups.com, jennabushfanclub@yahoogroups.com, libertarianrepublicans@yahoogroups.com, newrepublican2@yahoogroups.com, politics24-7@yahoogroups.com, RepublicanParty@yahoogroups.com, RNC@yahoogroups.com, ThePoliticalSpinroom@yahoogroups.com, therepublicanclub@yahoogroups.com, USA_RepublicanParty@yahoogroups.com, Young-Republicans-of-America@yahoogroups.com, youngrepublicans2@yahoogroups.com, Condalisa_Rice_fan_club@yahoogroups.com,
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        Date: Monday, February 1, 2010, 9:06 AM


         





        http://www.amazon. com/What- Obama-Democrats- McCain-Didnt/ dp/1432742612/ ref=cm_cd_ pdp?_encoding= UTF8&cdPage= 1&cdERR=defaultC red&noLL= 1
         

        Product Description
        Had John McCain simultaneously chosen Condoleezza Rice as his Vice Presidential running mate (instead of Sarah Palin) and Mitt Romney as his Chief Economic Advisor coming out of the Convention, the Republicans could have actually won the 2008 Presidential Election; even in the aftermath of the Wall Street Economic Meltdown (based on an objective analysis of Presidential Exit Poll Data). This assertion is primarily based on three highly plausible suppositions that would have emerged, demographically, had Rice been chosen as the Republican Vice Presidential candidate, that could have decisively altered the outcome of the 2008 Presidential Election of Barack Obama.

        In particular, Rice’s presence on the Republican ticket would have cut across and appealed to several crucial demographic constituencies that no other Republican possibly could in 2008 (or, for that matter, in 2012 either). Moreover, the selection of Rice would have averted the devastatingly negative Voter impact of Sarah Palin’s perceived lack of readiness to become President that endured through Election Day. Whereas, had Romney been “onboard” as an equal member of such a political triumvirate paradigm, the frantic and impulsive vacillations displayed by John McCain that excruciatingly transpired in the two weeks following the onset of the Wall Street Economic Meltdown in mid September 2008, need not ever have occurred.

        Further, this book will examine how John McCain and the Republican Party, during the 2008 Presidential campaign, allowed themselves to be essentially handcuffed and effortlessly painted into a corner by Barack Obama and the Democrats on several major campaign issues for which justifiable, principled departures from rigid Republican Doctrine did, and still do, exist today.

        Additionally, the personality traits of both McCain and Obama are analyzed as a basis for projecting their respective presidential crisis decision-making potential; based on observable behavior and reaction to events that occurred during the 2008 campaign. A similar analysis details how both McCain and Obama, at crucial times during the campaign, allowed their respective insecurities and/or petty vindictiveness to cloud and potential jeopardize even their most overriding, single-minded ambition: To be elected President.

        The daunting (and maybe insurmountable) outlook confronting the Republican Party in 2012 and beyond will also be explored. Indeed, for the Republican Party, after 2020, the future looks even more bleak; at which time, if nothing materially changes, the Democrat Party will dominate the White House as the only remaining viable National Political Party.

        As to the immediate future, a valid and objective Voter Expectation of the Republican Party is that their criticism of the Obama Democrat Administration will be accompanied by thoughtful, comprehensive alternative solutions. Moreover, it is axiomatic that Voters will, typically, not opt to “change horses in the middle of the stream” unless 1) the party in power seeking re-election is perceived not only as a troubled presidency (1980: Carter); but, as an additional prerequisite, 2) the opposition party a) has detailed alternative solutions and b) can articulate them (1980: Reagan).

        Product Details

        Paperback: 294 pages
        Publisher: Outskirts Press (September 16, 2009)
        Language: English
        ISBN-10: 1432742612
        ISBN-13: 978-1432742614
         

        Peter Dow comments
         
        I'd have to agree with the Gary Patterson's "What Obama and the Democrats Knew That McCain Didn't: How McCain Could Have Actually Won the 2008 Election" thesis outlined above at least in so far as with Rice on his ticket, McCain would have won.
         
        To declare my interest in this matter, I run Rice for President Yahoo Group and that is why I am commenting here but I don't know Gary Patterson and I have no involvement with his book, nor have I read it.
         
        In April 2008, a poll in the Democratic stronghold state of New York State indicated that a McCain - Rice 2008 ticket would defeat either Obama or Clinton in New York State.
         
        This poll represented a 21% swing towards such a McCain-Rice 2008 ticket from the results in New York State in the 2004 presidential elections when Kerry beat Bush by nearly 20 points.
         
        Assuming such a 21% swing to McCain - Rice could be replicated nationwide, I did an analysis and prediction of the 2008 presidential election result. See below for my predictions of a 46 states landslide victory for McCain - Rice 2008.
         
        So either the McCain camp didn't do the math, they didn't want to win enough to put Condi on the ticket or Condi didn't want to run for VP in 2008.
         
        Why then would more Americans vote for McCain - Rice but not McCain - Palin?
         
        I think because people would only trust President John McCain as a "Chairman of the Board" type of president, setting the overall direction and goals but not as a "Chief Executive" type of president.
         
        Americans agree with McCain's instincts but don't always trust his decisions or hunches.
         
        By picking Palin, McCain was signalling to the American people that he never had any real intention to delegate presidential executive decisions to his inexperienced VP Palin nor to his cabinet members and McCain would govern on his impulses and hunches at the time and he intended to pick a team that never questioned his judgement.
         
        That is the impression that McCain's pick gives - McCain would be number 1 and there wouldn't be a number 2.
         
        The president has his finger on the nuclear button and you want a number 2 who you can trust to say "No, Mr President".
         
        If McCain had picked a strong executive Vice-President such as Condoleezza Rice he would have signalled to the American people that he was content with a "Chairman of the board" role, a "father of nation" type of president who would delegate executive decisions to VP Rice and strong cabinet members with competence to make difficult decisions.
         
        This is why I believe that Americans would have elected McCain - Rice 2008. Americans love John McCain but it is Condoleezza Rice that they trust with the details.
         
        - Peter Dow

        --- On Tue, 16/9/08, Peter Dow <peterdow@talk21. com> wrote:

        From: Peter Dow <peterdow@talk21. com>
        Subject: [rice-for-president ] Can Fox save America from John McCain's pick for VP?
        To: rice-for-president@ yahoogroups. com
        Date: Tuesday, 16 September, 2008, 23:46

        Can Fox save America from John McCain's pick for VP?
         
        Did John McCain make the right pick with Sarah Palin for his vice presidential nominee? Who would have been better?
         
        Why would Condoleezza Rice be a better pick for VP nominee for the Republican ticket, better for America and better for the world?
         
        The McCain campaign and the Republican National Convention have accepted Sarah Palin for now and only Fox TV and Fox News Channel can ask them to think again and pick someone else.
         
        Why should Fox News ask McCain to think again? Will the Republican ticket do well and win with Sarah Palin? Will America do well with Sarah Palin as VP? What about if McCain becomes ill and Sarah Palin becomes President, how will America do then?
         
        These are really important questions for Fox News right now. Only Fox now can ask the searching questions that McCain should've asked himself before he made his pick.
         
        So let's just remember the exceptional performance of Condoleezza Rice as the US Secretary of State and then let's see what some people are saying about Sarah Palin as a pick for VP.
         
        Then let's take a look at a prediction which says that a McCain - Rice ticket would win 46 states, a landslide victory for Republicans.
         
        (If you don't see images of Condi here then you can view them on this page - http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/rice- for-president/  )
         

        Jan 19, 2005: Secretary of State-designate Condoleezza Rice speaks during her confirmation hearing before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

        Jan 28: President Bush listens to incoming Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice at the Swearing-In Ceremony.

        Feb 9: Secretary Rice in Brussels at NATO HQ with Secretary General Mr. Scheffer U.S. Representative R. Nicholas Burns.

        Feb 23: Secretary Rice with American Troops at Wiesbaden Army Airfield, Germany.

        May 10, 2006 Secretary Rice speaks at the Independent Womens Forum upon receiving the Woman of Valor award.

        Jan 11, 2007 The experience to be Vice President. Secretary Rice stands with Sen. Richard Lugar, Ranking Member and Sen. Joe Biden, Chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, now the Dem nominee for VP
         
        An exceptional person who would make an outstanding pick for vice presidential nominee I hope you will agree.
         
        Now let us consider how Sarah Palin is being seen in some quarters -
         
        If you don't see images of Sarah Palin and John McCain here then view the images on this page -
        http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/dumppalin/ message/23
         

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        Now many Fox News viewers would find those Sarah Palin images distasteful and some may find them harmless and satirical but what is the reality?
         
        Does Sarah Palin really have better judgement and more experience than Condoleezza Rice to be Vice President of the United States of America?
         
        Would Sarah Palin be more or less popular than Condoleezza Rice? Who would poll better?
         
         
         
        An analysis of one poll showed a McCain-Rice ticket would win 46 states.
        http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/rice- for-president/ message/1823
         
        I wrote this for Rice for President Yahoo Group way back Sat May 3, 2008
         

        McCain-Rice wins 46 States.
        Hillary-Obama wins 4 states.
         
        Poll analysis predicts a LANDSLIDE VICTORY for McCain-Rice! (was Marist College-WNBC Poll: McCain-Rice ticket wins in New York)

        Now I have examined the figures. New York State is a Democrat stronghold. Kerry beat Bush in 2004 in New York by 18%

        uselectionatlas. org/RESULTS
        http://uselectionat las.org/RESULTS/ data.php? year=2004&datatype= national& def=1&f=0& off=0&elect= 0
         
        The poll says McCain-Rice wins by 3% in New York State which makes a 21% swing to the Republicans. Imagine now a 21% swing to McCain-Rice compared to Bush-Cheney ...
         
        To put this in perspective, if McCain-Rice did 21% better in all states compared to Bush-Cheney in 2004, what states would the Democrats win, if they couldn't even win in their democrat stronghold of New York State?
         
        Come on people do the math! The answer I think is -

        McCain-Rice 2008 - 46 states won easy

        Clinton-Obama 2008 - 4 states won maximum
        The Democrats would only win -
        D.C., Massachusetts - if they were lucky they might win Rhode Island and Vermont as well.
         
        Against McCain - Rice, the Democrats would win 2 states for sure, maybe 4 in total, not much more.
         
        All the other states would be won by McCain - Rice, assuming the swing of 21% to McCain-Rice.
         
        The Rice boost to the ticket.
        McCain-Rice is trusted by the voters of left and right and 21% more in New York State than Bush-Cheney was trusted.
         
        Please people MATH, MATH, MATH.
         
        Look at the evidence of the poll and understand that McCain-Rice would be a landslide victory for the republicans.
         
        The Democrats - Dean and the Democrat High Command - are betting everything on the GOP not being able to do the math.
         
        If you can understand the math, and that poll is correct, then McCain-Rice is a LANDSLIDE victory in all states apart from a few.
         
        Why choose a running mate who only adds one or two states to the ticket - when Condi adds almost ALL STATES to the ticket.
         
        MATH PEOPLE!
         
        - Peter Dow
        Rice for President Yahoo Group
        http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/rice- for-president/

        Peter Dow <peterdow@talk21. com> wrote:

        http://www.upi. com/NewsTrack/ Top_News/ 2008/04/10/ poll_mccain- rice_ticket_ wins_in_new_ york/3061/
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        Poll: McCain-Rice ticket wins in New York

        Published: April 10, 2008 at 7:11 AM
        POUGHKEEPSIE, N.Y., April 10 (UPI) -- A Republican ticket featuring John McCain and Condoleezza Rice could be a winner in the Democratic stronghold of New York, a poll suggests.

        The Marist College-WNBC poll indicates a ticket featuring the Arizona senator and the U.S. secretary of state would upend a Democratic presidential ticket of Sens. Hillary Clinton of New York and Barack Obama of Illinois by 3 points, 49 percent to 46 percent, and an Obama-Clinton ticket by 5 points, 49 percent to 44 percent, the college said in a news release.

        The poll comes just days after a leading Republican strategist suggested Rice is working behind the scenes to be on the ticket with McCain, the GOP presumptive nominee, despite Rice's statements to the contrary, CNN reported.

        The Marist-WNBC poll indicated a close head-to-head race with either Democratic presidential nomination contender and McCain. Clinton has support from 48 percent of the respondents, compared with 46 percent for McCain. Obama receives support from 46 percent of the voters, while 48 percent said they favored McCain.

        The survey interviewed 576 registered New York voters April 3-4 and has a sampling error of plus or minus 4 percentage points, the Poughkeepsie, N.Y., college said.
         
        Please click on the link below to view the entire article.
        http://www.upi. com/NewsTrack/ Top_News/ 2008/04/10/ poll_mccain- rice_ticket_ wins_in_new_ york/3061/
         
         

         
        http://www.nypost. com/seven/ 04102008/ news/regionalnew s/rice__mccain_ a_ny_dream_ team_105799. htm
         

        RICE & MCCAIN A NY DREAM TEAM
        By FREDRIC U. DICKER

        April 10, 2008 -- ALBANY - A Republican presidential ticket of John McCain and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice would beat a Democratic ticket of Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama - in either combination - in heavily "blue" New York, a surprising poll showed yesterday.
         
        The Marist College-WNBC survey found a McCain-Rice team ahead of a Clinton-Obama ticket, 49 percent to 46 percent, and an Obama-Clinton ticket, 49 percent to 44 percent.
         
        Without including a hypothetical running mate, the poll found McCain ahead of Obama, 48 percent to 46 percent, but trailed New Yorker Clinton, 48 percent to 46 percent.
         
        "It is quite shocking and it really speaks to how much the Democratic primary battle is spilling over to the electorate," said Marist pollster Lee Miringoff.
        "It doesn't mean the Republicans are going to carry New York in November, but it does mean the Democrats are being hurt right now and would be well advised to bring down the curtain on their battle as soon as possible," Miringoff continued.
         
         


        http://politicaltic ker.blogs. cnn.com/2008/ 04/10/poll- suggests- mccain-rice- ticket-could- win-big/
         

        April 10, 2008
        Poll suggests McCain-Rice ticket could win big
        Posted: 05:42 AM ET

        A McCain-Rice ticket could carry New York, a new poll says.

        (CNN) – Condoleezza Rice has said she has no desire to be John McCain's running mate, but a new poll out Wednesday suggests that duo could beat the Democratic ticket in the bluest of states.
         
        In a new poll conducted by Marist College and WNBC, a McCain-Rice ticket would beat a ticket that includes both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama in New York — a state that reliably votes for the Democratic candidate. (In 2004, John Kerry beat President Bush there by nearly 20 points. In 2000, the margin between Al Gore and Bush was an even higher 25 points.)
         
        But should McCain and Rice team up, the poll suggests the two Republicans would carry New York, defeating a Clinton-Obama ticket by 3 points (49-46 percent) and an Obama-Clinton ticket by 5 points (49-44 percent.)
         
        The poll comes days after a leading Republican strategist suggested Rice, contrary to her own public statements, is engaging in a behind-the-scenes campaign to land a spot on McCain's ticket. Former Bush administration official Dan Senor made the suggestion on ABC Sunday, noting Rice's recent appearance at the weekly meeting of Americans for Tax Reform — a leading organization of Republican insiders — as evidence she is attempting to cozy up to the conservative elite.
         
        That suggestion immediately had Beltway insiders speculating on the potential advantages Rice would deliver, especially in light of the fact the Democratic presidential ticket will either feature a woman or an African-American for the first time in American history.
         
        Rice herself attempted to put the speculation to rest Tuesday, saying, "I very much look forward to watching this campaign and voting as a voter — I have a lot of work to do and then I'll happily go back to Stanford."
         
        But with polls like this, it's likely some Republicans hope she reconsiders.
         
         

        Peter Dow comments -
         
        I smell fear from the Democrats.
         
        If McCain-Rice can beat Hillary-Obama in New York then McCain-Rice can sweep the country - A Landslide!
         
         Am I right, or am I right?  
         
        RUN,
         
        CONDI,
         
        RUN!
         

         
        DREAM
         
        TICKET!
         
        Peter Dow,
        Owner, Rice for President Yahoo Group
        http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/Rice- for-President/
         
         
         
        So after all that if Condi would be better then Sarah, should John McCain not be asked to think again about his pick for VP - and this time pick Condoleezza Rice?
         
        Well before it is too late to change the republican ticket, I am asking Fox News professions and Fox News viewers to really think hard about this because I think if anyone can ask and persuade John McCain to re-think his VP pick it is you.
         
        Well I hope you approve of my attempts to get this very serious question addressed. My personal opinion of course is that John McCain should dump Sarah Palin and pick Condoleezza Rice and these 2 groups on Yahoo which you are invited to join are in support of that idea.
         

        Click to join rice-for-president
        http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/rice- for-president/
         
         
         

        Click to join dumppalin
        http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/dumppalin/
         
        Finally I will leave you with a link to a video of Condoleezza Rice being asked about Sarah Palin, with subtitles added.
         
        Condoleezza Rice on Sarah Palin's experience. With subtitles
        http://uk.youtube. com/watch? v=fcZ_VDScvj0
         
        Yours sincerely,
        Peter Dow
         


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