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  • Erik Buttars
    Hi all, Nice to see our old site being used as it was intended by the ol’ boy network and some of the original names still firing. If things work out, I hope
    Message 1 of 34 , May 9, 2013
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      Hi all,

      Nice to see our old site being used as it was intended by the ol’ boy network and some of the original names still firing. If things work out, I hope to be visiting the USA from late June through August, I had better keep in touch in case I need some directions, etc. LOL

      ERIK

      Queensland, Australia



      From: chief-users@yahoogroups.com [mailto:chief-users@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jay Malaspino
      Sent: Friday, 10 May 2013 1:14 AM
      To: chief-users@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [chief-users] system 9 USB port key ?

      10 will work with tweaking on Win 7.
      Jay
      ________________________________
      From: edward deering <edeering@... <mailto:edeering%40ameritech.net> >
      To: chief-users@yahoogroups.com <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 11:03 AM
      Subject: RE: [chief-users] system 9 USB port key ?

      9 won’t work on Win. 7. I can’t remember which one is the first that works. I’ve had X1, X3, X4 and X5. One of which I bought when I upgraded to Win. 7 I think it was X3

      Ed Deering

      From: chief-users@yahoogroups.com <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:chief-users@yahoogroups.com <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of BP
      Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 10:23 AM
      To: chief-users@yahoogroups.com <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>
      Subject: RE: [chief-users] system 9 USB port key ?

      Thanks Steve…I actually have the usb port key for 9, but it doesn’t work with Windows 7…so looking for the password version which does work…but appreciate the offer very much.

      Ben

      From: chief-users@yahoogroups.com <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:chief-users@yahoogroups.com <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Steven Briscoe
      Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 4:57 PM
      To: chief-users@yahoogroups.com <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>
      Subject: Re: [chief-users] system 9 USB port key ?

      Ben
      I have a version 9 usb port key if that will work for you

      ________________________________
      From: BP <bpal.email@... <mailto:bpal.email%40gmail.com> <mailto:bpal.email%40gmail.com> <mailto:bpal.email%40gmail.com> >
      To: chief-users@yahoogroups.com <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2013 11:53 AM
      Subject: RE: [chief-users] system 9 USB port key ?

      Does anyone have a password key for version 9.5x …same problem as Tim
      described…I have a hardware lock, but it doesn’t work….but the password
      version does works…I have one password version working for some of my older
      stock plans, but would like to get it working on another computer that I
      have a hardware lock for.

      Thanks,

      Ben Palmer
      bpal.email@... <mailto:bpal.email%40gmail.com> <mailto:bpal.email%40gmail.com> <mailto:bpal.email%40gmail.com>

      From: chief-users@yahoogroups.com <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:chief-users@yahoogroups.com <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
      Behalf Of Tim O'Donnell
      Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 11:44 AM
      To: chief-users@yahoogroups.com <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>
      Subject: Re: [chief-users] system 8 USB port key ?

      The v9 key will NOT work with v8....the hardware keys have always been
      version specific...only working with the version they were issued with,
      no backward compatibility

      tim o'd

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    • Linda Ihle
      I m not sure, it kind of looks like Chief but then again not. If he does use Chief and he s a member of our user group - he knows who he is and he needs to
      Message 34 of 34 , May 16, 2013
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        I'm not sure, it kind of looks like Chief but then again not.


        If he does use Chief and he's a member of our user group - he knows who he is and he needs to brush up his skills :-)


        He's actually showing an existing gable roof that will have to be removed.


        The client waited over a year for these plans and pretty much what they got was a fancy set of steps in an octagonal shaped area with turret style roof that will be expensive to build and they never asked for. The rest of the addition is poorly planned in my opinion, lots of wasted space for a family of 4 and no closets.

        The project consists of a very small 1 story house that has an 8' ceiling with a 3-4' knee wall above that the existing hip roof sits on and they're adding an approx 27'x30' 2 story addition.


        That's where and why his elevation view isn't correct. In his right side elevation view he's showing the existing ridge height over the new second floor. It's hard to describe but that ridge should be meeting the new ridge beyond it. The 3' knee wall will be cut off and they'll build the addition to match existing 8' ceiling on the first floor. Why he's showing an old ridge height makes no sense whatsoever.


        -----Original Message-----
        From: Jay Malaspino <caddesigns02638@...>
        To: chief-users <chief-users@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Thu, May 16, 2013 9:21 am
        Subject: Re: [chief-users] system 9 USB port key ?






        Does he use CA?

        Jay

        ________________________________
        From: Linda Ihle <LindaIhle@...>
        To: chief-users@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 9:00 AM
        Subject: Re: [chief-users] system 9 USB port key ?



        I'll second that!!

        I'm working behind one of my competitors right now. His finished CD doesn't show dimensions, no roof framing, no second floor framing, the titles under views are incorrect and the exterior elevations do not reflect the floor plan, and that's just the beginning of his mess.

        I'm shocked, particularly when I think about the building inspector and the fact that he's been approving this sloppy work AND this designer also portrays himself as "design build" when he's not a licensed contractor. As far as I know he doesn't hold a license for anything, and he's already been reprimanded for practicing engineering and surveying without a license.

        Ugh!
        Linda

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Ted Crombie <mailto:simplyplans%40webryders.net>;
        To: chief-users <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;
        Sent: Thu, May 16, 2013 8:49 am
        Subject: Re: [chief-users] system 9 USB port key ?

        AMEN!!

        Sent from my iPhone

        On May 16, 2013, at 8:00 AM, Jay Malaspino <mailto:caddesigns02638%40yahoo.com>; wrote:

        > I can see how you're having a problem with finding CD help. Way too many button pushers and pretty picture makers use the software. A double edged sword..... CD production is getting to be a lost art if in fact it ever was one.
        >
        > Jay
        >
        >
        > ________________________________
        > From: "mailto:vkuna41874%40aol.com"; <mailto:vkuna41874%40aol.com>;
        > To: mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com
        > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 7:09 AM
        > Subject: Re: [chief-users] system 9 USB port key ?
        >
        >
        >
        > CD
        >
        > In a message dated 5/16/2013 5:57:22 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
        > mailto:caddesigns02638%40yahoo.com writes:
        >
        > What are you looking for? CD, rendering, cleanup?
        >
        > Jay
        >
        > ________________________________
        > From: "mailto:_vkuna41874%40aol.com_ (mailto:mailto:vkuna41874%40aol.com) "
        > <mailto:_vkuna41874%40aol.com_ (mailto:mailto:vkuna41874%40aol.com) >
        > To: mailto:_chief-users%40yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com)
        > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:10 PM
        > Subject: Re: [chief-users] system 9 USB port key ?
        >
        > I've belong to this group for years but have been using a different email
        > Which is mailto:__vince%40vincekunasekdesign.com_
        > (mailto:mailto:_vince%40vincekunasekdesign.com) _
        > (mailto:mailto:_vince%40vincekunasekdesign.com_
        > (mailto:mailto:vince%40vincekunasekdesign.com) ) I'm looking for quality help Have tried a couple from chief users
        > without much luck any one interested please let me know..You can see my
        > work
        > on my site _www.vincekunasekdesign.com_
        > (_http://www.vincekunasekdesign.com_/ (http://www.vincekunasekdesign.com/) )
        > the face book link has renderings of some of my current projects Thank
        > you
        >
        > In a message dated 5/10/2013 5:46:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
        > mailto:_johnricho%40exemail.com.au_ (mailto:mailto:johnricho%40exemail.com.au) writes:
        >
        > Ted
        > All the best in your retirement, don't forget the Willy Nelson tapes.
        > I have been lurking for years as Erik knows but I did not realize how
        > many old guys we had in this group. @78 I tried to pull down my shingle
        > 2.5 years ago to look after a sick wife but a couple of very loyal
        > clients played on my better nature saying "just do this one job for me"
        > little did I realize they meant ONE JOB AT A TIME. Now resigned to the
        > fact I will retire when they put me into that cardboard box.
        > Enjoy many years on the road in your RV.
        >
        > Regards
        >
        > John Richardson
        >
        > Victoria (The Garden State)
        >
        > Australia
        >
        > Any advance on 78????????????
        >
        > On 10-May-13 5:08 PM, Erik Buttars wrote:
        > >
        > > Ted and family,
        > >
        > > I am sure we all wish you every happiness and good health in your new
        > > adventures as an RV’er, perhaps see you on the road one day. I hope
        > > you have New Zealand and Australia in your bucket list to visit and
        > > travel our big wide country.
        > >
        > > Regards,
        > >
        > > ERIK
        > >
        > > Sunshine Coast
        > >
        > > Queensland, Australia
        > >
        > > From: mailto:__chief-users%40yahoogroups.com_
        > (mailto:mailto:_chief-users%40yahoogroups.com) _ (mailto:mailto:_chief-users%40yahoogroups.com_
        > (mailto:mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com) )
        >
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > [mailto:mailto:__chief-users%40yahoogroups.com_
        > (mailto:mailto:_chief-users%40yahoogroups.com) _
        > (mailto:mailto:_chief-users%40yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com)
        > )
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;] On Behalf Of Ted Crombie
        > > Sent: Friday, 10 May 2013 1:02 PM
        > > To: mailto:__chief-users%40yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:mailto:_chief-users%40yahoogroups.com)
        > _ (mailto:mailto:_chief-users%40yahoogroups.com_
        > (mailto:mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com) )
        > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > Subject: Re: [chief-users] system 9 USB port key ?
        > >
        > > Yes indeed!!
        > > I will take this time to announce that as of May 30, 2013 I will be
        > > officially closing my office. I started my business in 1983 and figure
        > > that at age 72 30 years is enough. Through these years I have had 2007
        > > projects completed throughout the New England states and it's only
        > > fitting that a client with whom I had my first major project (a large
        > > addition to a shopping plaza) I will be completing my last project, a
        > > renovation of an existing space within this plaza.
        > > We have FINALLY sold our house and will become full time RVers -
        > > traveling this wonderful country.
        > > There are far too many in this group to thank individually for all the
        > > help you have passed my way over the years and I certainly hope will
        > > continue and grow.
        > > Best wishes to all and don't let your work control your life to the
        > > point that you leave no time to enjoy all the things you wished you
        > > had done.
        > > Remember that life is very much like a roll of toilet paper. ........
        > > the closer you get to the end the faster it goes!! :-)
        > > Ted Crombie, CPBD
        > > N.H.
        > >
        > > Sent from my iPhone
        > >
        > > On May 9, 2013, at 9:15 PM, Tsnoid <mailto:__tsnoid%40aol.com_ (mailto:_
        > mailto:tsnoid%40aol.com) _
        > (mailto:mailto:_tsnoid%40aol.com_ (mailto:mailto:tsnoid%40aol.com) )
        > > <mailto:tsnoid%40aol.com>;; <mailto:tsnoid%40aol.com>;; > wrote:
        > >
        > > > Hear , hear.
        > > >
        > > > Tony Thompson
        > > > Plans Ahead LLC
        > > > 19 Ivy Street
        > > > Branford, Ct
        > > >
        > > > On May 9, 2013, at 8:53 PM, "Erik Buttars"
        > <mailto:__chiefqld%40optusnet.com.au_ (mailto:mailto:_chiefqld%40optusnet.com.au) _
        > (mailto:mailto:_chiefqld%40optusnet.com.au_ (mailto:mailto:chiefqld%40optusnet.com.au) )
        > > <mailto:chiefqld%40optusnet.com.au>;;
        > > <mailto:chiefqld%40optusnet.com.au>;; > wrote:
        > > >
        > > > > Hi all,
        > > > >
        > > > > Nice to see our old site being used as it was intended by the ol’
        > > boy network and some of the original names still firing. If things
        > > work out, I hope to be visiting the USA from late June through August,
        > > I had better keep in touch in case I need some directions, etc. LOL
        > > > >
        > > > > ERIK
        > > > >
        > > > > Queensland, Australia
        > > > >
        > > > > From: mailto:__chief-users%40yahoogroups.com_
        > (mailto:mailto:_chief-users%40yahoogroups.com) _
        > (mailto:mailto:_chief-users%40yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com)
        > )
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > [mailto:mailto:__chief-users%40yahoogroups.com_
        > (mailto:mailto:_chief-users%40yahoogroups.com) _
        > (mailto:mailto:_chief-users%40yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com)
        > )
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;; ] On Behalf Of Jay Malaspino
        > > > > Sent: Friday, 10 May 2013 1:14 AM
        > > > > To: mailto:__chief-users%40yahoogroups.com_
        > (mailto:mailto:_chief-users%40yahoogroups.com) _
        > (mailto:mailto:_chief-users%40yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com)
        > )
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > > > Subject: Re: [chief-users] system 9 USB port key ?
        > > > >
        > > > > 10 will work with tweaking on Win 7.
        > > > > Jay
        > > > > ________________________________
        > > > > From: edward deering <mailto:__edeering%40ameritech.net_
        > (mailto:mailto:_edeering%40ameritech.net) _
        > (mailto:mailto:_edeering%40ameritech.net_ (mailto:mailto:edeering%40ameritech.net) )
        > > <mailto:edeering%40ameritech.net>;; <mailto:edeering%40ameritech.net>;;
        > > <mailto:edeering%40ameritech.net>;; >
        > > > > To: mailto:__chief-users%40yahoogroups.com_
        > (mailto:mailto:_chief-users%40yahoogroups.com) _
        > (mailto:mailto:_chief-users%40yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com)
        > )
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 11:03 AM
        > > > > Subject: RE: [chief-users] system 9 USB port key ?
        > > > >
        > > > > 9 won’t work on Win. 7. I can’t remember which one is the first
        > > that works. I’ve had X1, X3, X4 and X5. One of which I bought when I
        > > upgraded to Win. 7 I think it was X3
        > > > >
        > > > > Ed Deering
        > > > >
        > > > > From: mailto:__chief-users%40yahoogroups.com_
        > (mailto:mailto:_chief-users%40yahoogroups.com) _
        > (mailto:mailto:_chief-users%40yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com)
        > )
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > [mailto:mailto:__chief-users%40yahoogroups.com_
        > (mailto:mailto:_chief-users%40yahoogroups.com) _
        > (mailto:mailto:_chief-users%40yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com)
        > )
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;; ] On Behalf Of BP
        > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 10:23 AM
        > > > > To: mailto:__chief-users%40yahoogroups.com_
        > (mailto:mailto:_chief-users%40yahoogroups.com) _
        > (mailto:mailto:_chief-users%40yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com)
        > )
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > > > Subject: RE: [chief-users] system 9 USB port key ?
        > > > >
        > > > > Thanks Steve…I actually have the usb port key for 9, but it
        > > doesn’t work with Windows 7…so looking for the password version which
        > > does work…but appreciate the offer very much.
        > > > >
        > > > > Ben
        > > > >
        > > > > From: mailto:__chief-users%40yahoogroups.com_
        > (mailto:mailto:_chief-users%40yahoogroups.com) _
        > (mailto:mailto:_chief-users%40yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com)
        > )
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > [mailto:mailto:__chief-users%40yahoogroups.com_
        > (mailto:mailto:_chief-users%40yahoogroups.com) _
        > (mailto:mailto:_chief-users%40yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com)
        > )
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;; ] On Behalf Of Steven Briscoe
        > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 4:57 PM
        > > > > To: mailto:__chief-users%40yahoogroups.com_
        > (mailto:mailto:_chief-users%40yahoogroups.com) _
        > (mailto:mailto:_chief-users%40yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com)
        > )
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > > > Subject: Re: [chief-users] system 9 USB port key ?
        > > > >
        > > > > Ben
        > > > > I have a version 9 usb port key if that will work for you
        > > > >
        > > > > ________________________________
        > > > > From: BP <mailto:__bpal.email%40gmail.com_ (mailto:mailto:_bpal.email%40gmail.com) _
        > (mailto:mailto:_bpal.email%40gmail.com_ (mailto:mailto:bpal.email%40gmail.com) )
        > <mailto:bpal.email%40gmail.com>;;
        > > <mailto:bpal.email%40gmail.com>;; <mailto:bpal.email%40gmail.com>;;
        > > <mailto:bpal.email%40gmail.com>;; <mailto:bpal.email%40gmail.com>;; >
        > > > > To: mailto:__chief-users%40yahoogroups.com_
        > (mailto:mailto:_chief-users%40yahoogroups.com) _
        > (mailto:mailto:_chief-users%40yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com)
        > )
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2013 11:53 AM
        > > > > Subject: RE: [chief-users] system 9 USB port key ?
        > > > >
        > > > > Does anyone have a password key for version 9.5x …same problem as Tim
        > > > > described…I have a hardware lock, but it doesn’t work….but the
        > > password
        > > > > version does works…I have one password version working for some of
        > > my older
        > > > > stock plans, but would like to get it working on another computer
        > > that I
        > > > > have a hardware lock for.
        > > > >
        > > > > Thanks,
        > > > >
        > > > > Ben Palmer
        > > > > mailto:__bpal.email%40gmail.com_ (mailto:mailto:_bpal.email%40gmail.com) _
        > (mailto:mailto:_bpal.email%40gmail.com_ (mailto:mailto:bpal.email%40gmail.com) )
        > <mailto:bpal.email%40gmail.com>;;
        > > <mailto:bpal.email%40gmail.com>;; <mailto:bpal.email%40gmail.com>;;
        > > <mailto:bpal.email%40gmail.com>;; <mailto:bpal.email%40gmail.com>;;
        > > > >
        > > > > From: mailto:__chief-users%40yahoogroups.com_
        > (mailto:mailto:_chief-users%40yahoogroups.com) _
        > (mailto:mailto:_chief-users%40yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com)
        > )
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > [mailto:mailto:__chief-users%40yahoogroups.com_
        > (mailto:mailto:_chief-users%40yahoogroups.com) _
        > (mailto:mailto:_chief-users%40yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com)
        > )
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;;
        > > <mailto:chief-users%40yahoogroups.com>;; ] On
        > > > > Behalf Of Tim O'Donnell
        > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2013 11:44 AM
        > > > > To: mailto:__chief-users%40yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:mailto:_chief-users%40yahoogroups.c
        > om) _
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        > > > > Subject: Re: [chief-users] system 8 USB port key ?
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        > > > > The v9 key will NOT work with v8....the hardware keys have always
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        > > > > version specific...only working with the version they were issued
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        > > > > no backward compatibility
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