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Re: [Cheetahtemplate-discuss] [ANNOUNCE] Cheetah Community Edition v2.1.0

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  • Michael DeHaan
    ... That s most of what running a project consists of :) ... Github s calling that forking is a bit weird in terms of technology (I d call that a remote
    Message 1 of 33 , Mar 17, 2009
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      > In my "defense" I've not provided a lot of patches (IMHO), I've incorporated a
      > lot of patches and tested them. I encourage anybody that has patches, to
      > include the appropriate test cases in src/Tests, bugs in templating
      > engines can be subtle in cause, but very damaging and frustrating in
      > effect.

      That's most of what running a project consists of :)

      >> The web site is most likely not hosted on sourceforge (right?) so we'd
      >> probably want to set up another or just mention
      >> it on the github Wiki.
      > The website is all hosted on SourceForge as far as I can tell, if you
      > look in www/ you'll notice the upload.sh performs an scp(1) to
      > SourceForge of the generated HTML.
      > The DNS entries are all likely tied to Tavis' registrar account.
      >> Setting up a few extra committers might be nice just to head off a
      >> future problem, though hopefully it
      >> wouldn't come to that.
      > The one nice thing about GitHub in this case is that the Cheetah CE
      > repository is public and anybody can fork (it's encouraged!) off of it
      > in order to create patches. GitHub provides a nice interface for
      > upstream project maintainers to properly incorporate downstream patches
      > from individuals (http://github.com/blog/270-the-fork-queue)
      > That said, I do think it's helpful to post patches to the mailing list
      > for general code review and discuss, but also so everybody is aprised on
      > the specifics of bugs and their fixes as the project moves forward.

      Github's calling that "forking" is a bit weird in terms of technology
      (I'd call that a remote branch), but I do love git and
      github does make it easy.

      It still does help to have one official "upstream" tree.

      So sourceforge does have a project takeover process if we need it?
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    • mobiledreamers@gmail.com
      ... maintain cheetah anymore and actively asked me to switch to mako Considering that i say it is very healthy to have Tyler maintain Cheetah Gmail top-posts
      Message 33 of 33 , Apr 28, 2009
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        From What mike orr told me over the last 2years is he is not going to maintain cheetah anymore
        and actively asked me to switch to mako
        Considering that i say it is very healthy to have Tyler maintain Cheetah
        Gmail top-posts

        On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:50 AM, R. Tyler Ballance <tyler@...> wrote:
        On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 11:19:08AM +0300, Juha Tuomala wrote:
        > On Monday 27 April 2009 22:05:57 R. Tyler Ballance wrote:
        > > Apologies for top-posting on this ancient thread.
        > Please don't, either.

        Heh, yes sir!

        Hey, at least I didn't send an HTML email ;)

        > > It has come to my attention that my Abandoned Project Take-over request
        > > with SourceForge.net has been approved and as of now I have
        > > administrator access to the "cheetahtemplate" project on SourceForge.
        > I has crossed my mind that has anyone tried to call him?

        To humour you, I just went ahead and tried (since it's effectively the
        same calling from the US to Canada)

        > > Administrative, Technical Contact:
        > > Rudd, Tavis tavis@...
        > > DamnSimple Solutions
        > > #1106 189 Davie Street
        > > Vancouver, BC V6Z 2X9
        > > CA
        > > 604-787-2204


        > > 604-921-7853

        Jan and David live there now, they sound nice.

        My personal feelings on the ethos of open source is along the lines of
        Michael's such that projects exist in more of a community realm. That is
        not to say I don't understand your concerns for Tavis and *his* project.
        Tavis has created something wonderful that's been quite useful to me,
        and I believe many of you. I feel it would be disingenuous of us to let
        his project languish in his absence.

        I certainly don't want to split off from the original goals Tavis
        outlined for Cheetah. From communitycheetah.org:

               Why Community Cheetah:
                       The primary motivations for the Community Cheetah fork is to
                       maintain active development outside of the currently-stale
                       Cheetah CVS tree. Community Cheetah isn't meant to diverge from
                       the main goals of Cheetah: speed, ease of use and stability, but
                       rather Community Cheetah is meant to reinvirgorate the community
                       surrounding Cheetah and provide monthly releases incorporating
                       patches and improvements to the engine.

        End of the day, I don't want to replace Tavis or take the project in a
        different direction, I want to help Tavis' "pet project" (as you put it)
        grow up and continue to live on regardless of whether or not Tavis is
        here to care for it.

        Consider me the house keeper until Tavis gets back ;)

        -R. Tyler Ballance
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