Re: Polish authorities started "Chechen actions"...
- I also know about the actions. I read about it in "Gazeta Wyborcza
30.01.01) and talked to a Chechen who lives in this refugee camp.
As far as I read in "Gazeta" the goal of the action was to capture an
arms-trader and smuggler - Mamuk Sullakwelidze. The police say he is
Chechen, but his name looks Georgian.
The Chechen Information Centre in Krakow is going to write a protest
against these actions. When I translate the letter I will publish it on
On Fri, 2 Feb 2001 mpietrzyk@... wrote:
> --- In tchetchenie@y..., "Radoslaw Sikora" <radsikora@p...> wrote:
> On 30 January at about 4-5 a.m. Polish authorities started "Chechen
This itself is against the Polish law, because searches are alowed only
between 6.00 a.m. and 10.00 p.m.
> Next great problem for refugees is to cross Polish border - there
> a kind of secret
> agreement of Polish and Russian authorities not to let them into
Officially Polish authorities explain that Chechen people who wanted to
enter Poland did not apply for the refugee status. In some cases it may
be true, but even though - in such a case Polish authorities should
instruct the refugees how to apply for the refugee status and they never
Sometimes the refugees are let in Poland only after journalists come and
there is about to be a scandal.
I do not know if a secret agreement between Polish and Russian authorities
exists or if it is rather the way of looking for matherial profits
> It is supposed that this action is preparation for deportation of
> from Poland or
> for Putin`s visit to Poland (which could be the same in suitable
> situation ).
> Either way it is in perfect accordance with Russian propaganda trying
> that all Chechens are "terrorists and bandits".
Yes, there is such a possibility that it is the way to silence Chechen
refugees. You remember I wrote you about a demonstration in Warsaw, where
Chechen refugees participated. I wrote no newspaper had written about
this. Now I make a correction: The weely: Tygodnik "Solidarnosc" did. It
was issue no. 5. (646) 2001 (http:/www.solidarnosc.pol.pl). The Editor
wrote an editorial entitled "Deja vu i.e. the Loliness of Victims", where
he mentioned this demonstration and comlained about virtual silence on
Chechnya in media. He expresses his outrage concerning returning Russia
full right to vote. He also protested against the slowliness in granting
Chechen imigrants the status of political refugees. The vice-speaker or
Chechen Parliament could not leave Poland and participate in Strasbourg
session, because not having a status he cannot leave Poland. He appealed
to the Polish Minister of Internal Affairs and Administration saying:
"Strange laziness concerning granting Vice-Speaker Beshaev refugee
documents stands in obvious contrast with our Polish experience when
during the marshal law [1981-effectively 1989 - comment AW] Poles
emigrating to the West received such papers virtually on hand, that I
remind and dedicate to Minister Marek Biernacki".
Below in this issue a note on demonstration comes with a photo.
Concerning this issue, I have a question to list members concerning the
situation of Chechen refugees in their countries. Some list members are
refugees themselves. I think it would be interesting to hear about:
1. Approximate number of refugees
2. The way the authorities treat them (living conditions in camps,
prompteness to grant a status of a political refugee, etc.) - the way they
treat them generally and compared to refugees from other countries.
3. The way the society treat them (again generally of comopared to other
I am also interested if there is any possibility to put pressure on the
authorities to grant the status of political refugees quicker. I think it
should be the issue for PACE or European Parliament. If "civilized
countries" cannot do anything to stop Russian genocide at least they
should grant a status of political refugees to those Chechens who escaped
Russian efforts to liquidate them.
- --- In chechnya-sl@y..., Aleksandra Wagner <awagner@U...> wrote:
>I also know about the actions. I read about it in "Gazeta Wyborcza
30.01.01) and talked to a Chechen who lives in this refugee camp.
As far as I read in "Gazeta" the goal of the action was to capture
an arms-trader and smuggler - Mamuk Sullakwelidze. The police say he
is Chechen, but his name looks Georgian.
>The Chechen Information Centre in Krakow is going to write a protest
against these actions. When I translate the letter I will publish it
on the list.
I have to believe those actions weren't aimed specifically agaist
the Chechens refugees in Poland. It's true that the a refugee camp
was raided and the rooms where Chechens have been living were
searched. It's also true, that a place of a Pole were Ramzan
Ampukayev lives was searched too.
After those incidents, a Polish daily newspaper "Zycie Warszawy"
("Warsaw's Life" in English) published on Feb. 02 an article
"The Armenian from the Stadium" - I'll try to be very brief -
by the biggest Warsaw's Stadium there is a bazaar, were most of the
owners of hundreds of kiosks, stalls etc. are Armenians and people
from the East. This guy, also known as "The King of the Stadium"
identified only by first letter of his last name as S. with his gang
(one of the biggest foreign gangs in Poland) takes the rackets from
the merchants there. One also can can buy there pirated CD's,
computer programs and narcotics and there had been some wars between
his gang and an Ukrainian one in the past for taking control of that
place. Last year, several gangsters and merchants have been already
killed or beaten up.
According to a spokesman from the Central Bureau of Investigation
(Polish FBI) they have made several arrests all over Poland - and he
never mentioned that any Chechens were arrested. The spokesman also
said that is very difficult to penetrate this Armenian mafia.
I also found out - there is around 400 Chechen refugees in Poland
and according to some estimates up to 100,000 Armenians, most of
them without proper documents.
So,looks to me that police teams probably took a "wide approach" and
raided all known places, where people from the Caucasus have been
living or staying. That's very unfortunate and the Chechen refugees
have right to protest.
- On Sat, 3 Feb 2001 marius@... wrote:
>Unfortunately from the phone conversation with a chechen refugee living in
> I have to believe those actions weren't aimed specifically agaist
> the Chechens refugees in Poland. It's true that the a refugee camp
Debak I know that the police was specifically looking for Chechens, simply
asking "are there any Chechens?" "Who is Chechen" etc. The director of the
camp was showing to the police room where Chechens live and in the rooms
only people of Chechen nationality were questioned and search. I do not
know if any Armenians live in the camp, but I know that for example
Georgians were not questioned. So this specific action was aimed at
Chechens only. When search was made in private acomodations the victims
were also Poles staying there.
Of course in Poland there are many actions against persons of different
nationalities including Poles too. The goverment streghtened their
activities in fighting crime, especially organised crime. But this
specific action was aimed at Chechens only. Of course it is the matter of
speculations whether it was because a man the police was looking for was
allegedly Chechen so police thought he would stay with other Chechens or
whether the action has a political context. The Chechen Information
Centre is writing a letter to the minister and this question is included.
So I hope to receive an answer.