- For anyone who might be interested, I've decided to slowly start to try
to auction off dozens of CDs via Ebay, most of which are unusual and
So check it out if you're interested, and don't if you're not.
----- Original Message -----
From: "daniel_anthony_stearns" <daniel_anthony_stearns@...>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 5:04 PM
Subject: [charlesives] ebay CDs
> For anyone who might be interested, I've decided to slowly start to try
> to auction off dozens of CDs via Ebay, most of which are unusual and
> So check it out if you're interested, and don't if you're not.
Science Group - Spoors! Essential stuff! I was just listening the other day.
I'm a big fan of Bob Drake's solo material and Tickmayers, as well as Henry
Cow and Thinking Plague (MIke Johnson). Can't go wrong for $1, folks!
- On 12 Mar 2008 at 20:55, Frank Camiola wrote:
> Science Group - Spoors! Essential stuff! I was just listening the other day.Henry Cow ! Wow ! They actually took their name from Henry Cowell,
> I'm a big fan of Bob Drake's solo material and Tickmayers, as well as Henry
> Cow and Thinking Plague (MIke Johnson). Can't go wrong for $1, folks!
so there's an Ives connection, for sure. No wonder so many of us
seem to have the same eclectic tastes - Henry Cow, Robert Wyatt, Bang
on a Can, all these guys are way up market from trash commercial pop.
Or pap, more accurately. And they are still; going strong. Henry Cow
folded as such about 1983 (?) but its members still are very active
in other fields. Pete Blegvad went back to cartoon illustration but
has since returned to music. Heiner Goebbels who was on their fringe
is a seriously big name now in the European avant garde. He even
gets state funding, but he hasn't lost his individualist,
unclassifiable edge. And a couple of years agoi I was at a London
Sinfonietta concert and heard something that reminded me of Bang On a
Can. When I got home, I read the programme and sure enough, it was
written by the man who was behind Bang on a Can. These days he works
with Andriessen and the like. Class shows !
And the Henze Requiem is one of the best. Last year I was at his new
opera Phaedra, in Berlin. It is a kind of Requiem, too, because he
nearly died while he was writing it (He's 80 something and was in a
coma for months) Then when he was nursed back to health his long term
lover suddenly died. So it is not going to be one barrel of laughs,
but it is a powerful and disturbing work. Phaedra condemns the guy
she wants to seduce who turns her down and he gets lkilled. But the
person who really loves him revives him and brings him back from the
underworld. Powerful stuff, but musically this is wonderful, as it's
very spare and restrained, no waffle, no slush. When this turns up in
recording, grab it. Sorry it is a bit off topic but it was so good it
needs to be better known.
- Anne, since I had no first-hand knowledge of the Henry Cow
rock ensemble, I was delighted by your explanation that they took
their name in homage to Henry Cowell. Unfortunately, a Google
search reveals several sites which contradict this --- the
Wikipedia entry for "Henry Cow" says that the band members
themselves deny the connection.
But, speaking of Ives's great loyal friend, publisher, and
promoter, Henry Cowell, I would welcome a revival of interest in
live performances of Cow ell's many works --- also fresh
recordings of ALL his symphonies. Your post prompted me to
get out my old LP records of his music --- I love his Symphony #5
--- I love his piece for chorus and orchestra, "...if He please" (title
and text taken from writings by a Puritan clergyman) --- and the
gloriously offbeat melodies of Cowell's many "Hymn and
Fugueing Tune" pieces --- so many recordings cheaply made
( pick-up musicians forming a fictitious orchestra with "Vienna" in
its name) --- it would be nice to have some new recordings with
honestly named orchestras comprised of members who have
actually played together for more than 3 days. Counterexample
--- one of those Vienna pick-up "orchestras" made a budget
recording of Mahler's Symphony #1 that has stood the test of
time despite its flubs --- because Jascha Horenstein conducted.
But that's Middle-Europeans playing "mittel-europische musik"
--- such recordings do not quite capture the spirit of some
American composers --- or some British composers such as
Havergal Brian (the "British Charles Ives"?).
I started listening to recordings of music by Ives the day after
he died in 1954 --- as a teenager, I read a long obituary in
hometown paper (the Saint Louis Post-Dispatch) --- and the next
day I got on a bus to the main downtown Saint Louis Public
Library (which had a large record collection) and checked out all
its Ives recordings --- at that time the only recording of Ives's
Symphony #2 was one of those cheap European ones (Adler
was the conductor) -- also "Three Places in New England" with
Walter Hendl conducting a European orchestra on the American
Recording Society label. Not a very good introduction to Ives's
music --- but good enough to make me a life-long Ives
In the summer of 1965 I attended a Mathematics seminar at
University of Rochester (Rochester, New York, USA) -- I attended
several concerts by the Eastman-Rochester Orchestra --- at one
concert I sat next to Henry Cowell --- it was fascinating to
eavesdrop on his conversation with the man sitting on the other
side of him --- "A few days ago I was talking to Stravinsky
about..." --- "Oh, yes, Virgil Thomson told me ..." ... etc... --Wow!
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Anne Ozorio"
> Henry Cow ! Wow ! They actually took their name from Henry
> so there's an Ives connection, for sure. No wonder so many ofus
> seem to have the same eclectic tastes - Henry Cow, RobertWyatt, Bang
> on a Can, all these guys are way up market from trashcommercial pop. ... Henry Cow
> folded as such about 1983 (?) but its members still are veryactive
> in other fields.