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  • anthony cole
    Well actually it s in Ives Memos - Charley had written something like: when the 3rd symphony was being copied by the Tams agency (1910), Mahler saw it -
    Message 1 of 45 , Aug 28, 2007
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      Well actually it's in Ives "Memos" - Charley had written something like:
      when the 3rd symphony was being copied by the Tams agency (1910), Mahler saw
      it - asked to have a copy - he was quite interested in it, I think" - after
      that many others have speculated...........Tony

      -------Original Message-------

      From: Frank Camiola
      Date: 08/28/07 13:40:51
      To: charlesives@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [charlesives] Mahler

      Subject: Re: [charlesives] Mahler

      > On 27 Aug 2007 at 16:50, Random Particle wrote:
      >
      >> I remember reading a long time ago that Mahler actually received and
      > studied for performance an Ives symphony. I believe he was planning to
      > perform it but died before he could do so. ...........
      >
      > That's from the notorious David Wooldridge book in the early 70's,
      > but the whole book is full of "inventions". The late and much
      > missed, Bob Ziedler, started investigating it, but it unravelled so
      > fast it was unbelievable.

      Doesn't Jan Swafford make this claim as well in his Ives book (if I recall)?

      F





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    • Russ Jenkins
      Thank you Tony. Russ anthony cole wrote: Proms = Promenade Concerts - started 110 years ago by conductor Sir Henry Wood and taken over
      Message 45 of 45 , Sep 8 7:04 AM
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        Thank you Tony.

        Russ

        anthony cole <tony@...> wrote:
        Proms = Promenade Concerts - started 110 years ago by conductor Sir Henry
        Wood and taken over by the BBC 80 years ago. Summer series of concerts held
        mainly at the Royal Albert Hall and featuring not only the BBC orchestras
        but international ones (such as San Francisco S O last Saturday and Sunday).
        The floor of the hall is given over to "promenaders" who stand, often, as at
        the traditional "last night of the Proms" (tomorrow!), in very large numbers
        Whole thing has become a Brit tradition, with much flag-waving, etc. Tony


        -------Original Message-------

        From: Russ Jenkins
        Date: 09/07/07 06:20:07
        To: charlesives@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [charlesives] Ives at The Proms

        Anne,
        Please forgive my ignorance, but what are The Proms? The first I had heard
        of it was on a recent Pipedreams broadcast called Pipes at The Proms. It
        featured the pipe organ at Royal Albert Hall.

        Thanks.

        Russ Jenkins

        Anne Ozorio <anne.ozorio@...> wrote:
        Two Ives symphonies at the Proms this year in London. First, there
        was the Fourth conducted by dynamo David Robertson. Robertson is
        brilliant, the kind of guy who just crackles with energy. Although
        American, much of his career has been in Europe, and for many years
        he was conductor of Ensemble Intercontemporain, the specialist new
        music orchestra founded by Pierre Boulez, where each member of the
        orchestra is a vituoso in his/her own right. He's now whipping up
        the BBC orchestras. I don't think he has recorded much but he
        programmes Ives a lot and has done more than many to promote American
        composers in Europe - Ives and Carter his passions. He's very, very
        good.

        (search google : prom ives fourth robertson).

        This Saturday, it's the Third, with Michael Tilson Thomas. Streaming
        live on www.bbc/radio3 and for a week on demand, but there might be
        better when they brepeat it on one of the daytime broadcasts.

        Anyone else hear these ? Tony ?

        Anne
        anne.ozorio@...

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