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  • And like this?

    From: Mark Ortiz [mailto:markortizauto@...] Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 9:36 PM To: 'Carl.Ford@...' Subject: h 44 Hello Mr. Ford, I'm a

    jedgarsquink 2 days ago
  • Aggressive like this?

    Aggressive like this? From: Mark Ortiz [mailto:markortizauto@...] Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 9:27 PM To: 'bikementor@...' Subject:

    jedgarsquink 2 days ago
  • Re: Aggressive? Yes!

    Now that’s clearer, John. After reading this thread, eventually including Serge’s recent post, I went back and read the original post, and I honestly

    jedgarsquink 2 days ago
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The Chainguard list is for those who have moved beyond debating vehicular-cycling on our roads as compared to paving America again with separate bicycle facilities. The Chainguard list is for those who believe that bicyclists have the right, should expect, and be prepared to demand, safe accommodation as vehicle operators on EVERY road - the concept known as Vehicular Cycling. Vehicular Cyclists believe that, combined with education and relatively minor enhancements, the operation of bicycles as vehicles on our existing road network is the only realistic and environmentally sound approach which can result in any significant amount of bicycle transportation and recreation cycling in North America.

The ONLY correct topic for posts to the Chainguard list is:


That's ADVOCACY, with an emphasis on effective methods and ideas.

[ bicycle cycling bicycling advocacy advocate ]

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  • Dec 11, 1999
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