- Sorry, I meant to douse everyone - and not just those on this list - with a
fine spray of cold water, not tip the entire contents over poor Eke's head.
My fault for quoting you, Eke.
I've seen far more damning fantasies thrown about, usually by those who
cannot cope with any other perspective other than their own (e.g "This is
what I want out of life; I automatically assume it's what everyone else
wants; so if the subject of my judgement hasn't achieved what I want out of
life, they must certainly have been trying to achieve it, and therefore
failed" Futhermore: "Of course even if the subject says he/she has
different goals to mine... they're lying."). Leaving aside the obvious
egocentricity of this process which I can only attribute to some
developmental problem, such presumption seems to me to display an
extraordinary lack of imagination.
It no longer surprises me, however, that Dave is subject to excessive
condemnation. It's all too easy once one person starts using inflamatory
language, to absorb the hype and go along with it. Very easy indeed. I've
done it myself, and before long a consensus is reached. One that's based on
the exagerated judgement rather than the original object, one that's very
difficult to break, and one which, when a newcomer is exposed to it, can be
thoroughly - though often subtly - poisonous. In some respects, that's how
racism works. That's what I meant by 'dangerous' hyperbole. It can be
Anyway, as I said, this was meant as a public apology to Eke. I don't want
to drag the conversation back now that it's hit 'Cerebus' territory. I'm
new to this stuff myself, and I'm going away now to sell comics. Promise.
P.S. 'Cerebus' #242 has arrived.
P.P.S. It took me my sixth read of 'High Society', a couple of years ago,
to spot the early reference to Cerebus's telepathic abilities. Was I slow?
So obvious in retrospect.
P.P.P.S If there are crafty generalisations on women in the fictional work
that is 'Reads', don't they still make for an interesting Story? I mean,
isn't the art of good fiction to 'create' a story using just such
techniques, regardless of whether it is true of True? And isn't one of the
prime objects of art, to provoke? Didn't it provoke you? Provoked hundreds
of hours of thought and discussion with me. I'd say that made it
- Perhaps ones perception of where Dave's coming from depends on when you started
reading Cerebus. I joined as a result of the late 80s comic-book hype era. I
beginning with V for Vendetta and looked around for something else to try. I
started cerebus with issue #114, mainly because it said 'Jaka's Story 1' on the
front. I missed the fact that it had been going 11 years. Indeed, I don't
think I even noticed that there wasn't a Cerebus in it (not knowing what a
Cerebus was) until I got to the letters page. What I (and my wife-to-be) were
taken with was the beautiful pictures and the naturalistic portrayal of Jaka
and Rick. So we had seen Dave doing bang-on-the-button relationships and human
emotions for a long time before Reads came along. That made reading Reads
easier, because you knew that Dave 'wasn't always like that'. If I had
stumbled onto Reads first I might never have discovered the rest of Cerebus.
On a different note, let's not forget that there is more to Reads than just the
textybits, Cerebus appears on some pages. What is the juxtaposition telling
PS - Any guesses when Cerebus and Ye Prophite Ricke will meet again? I'm not
counting Cerebus' 'vision' from the boat.