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  • ambrois@xtra.co.nz
    Celtic and Old English Saints 25 October =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= * St. Caidin, Confessor in Ireland * St. Canna, Saudren and Crallo,
    Message 1 of 14 , Oct 25, 2012
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      Celtic and Old English Saints 25 October

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      * St. Caidin, Confessor in Ireland
      * St. Canna, Saudren and Crallo, Confessors in Wales
      * St. John of Beverley, Translation of his Relics
      * St. Marnock (Ernin, Ernene), Bishop of Kilmarnock
      in Scotland
      * St. Goeznoveus (Gouernou) of Brittany
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      St. Caidin, Confessor in Ireland
      ------------------------------------

      The feast of a Saint Caidin is recorded in some of the Irish Martyrologies
      for 25 October. The table in the Martyrology of Donegal lists:

      Caoide, abbot, of Domhnach-Caoide, in Tir Eoghain, diocese of Derry, 25 Oct.
      (8 Cal. Nov.); Cadinus in Latin. His church, his bell, and his staff are
      preserved.
      The actual entry reads:


      25. D. OCTAVO KAL. NOVEMBRIS. 25.

      [The festival of CAOIDE, Abbot, patron of .... chaidh.]
      to which the notes add:


      The blank in the text ought to be filled by the word Domhnach. (R.)
      The locality of Domnach Caoide, or Downaghede as it was anglicized, is
      mentioned in a later medieval record of the Diocese of Derry. The editor of
      these records, Bishop Reeves, quoted Colgan, who mentions the 28th October,
      rather than the 25th in connection with this saint. He also introduces
      something of a red herring in identifying Caidin with a Saint Cadoc, a
      missionary to the Morini in France:


      Downaghgede. - Domnach Caoide, Dominica Caidini. " S. Caidinus Confessor
      colitur in ecclesia de Domhnach Caoide, dioacesis Derensis in Ultonia, 28
      Octobris." - (Act. SS., p. 162 &.) Colgan observes that, the termination oc
      being a diminutive, Caidan or Caidin and Caidoc are the same. Caidocus al'
      Caidinus was a companion of St. Columbanus, and the apostle of the Morini.
      The herenagh paid 40s. per an. to the bishop Inq. The ruins of the old
      church of Donaghedy are in the townland Bunowen, a little N. E. of the
      present church (Ord. Surv., s.3.)

      Rev. W. Reeves (ed), Acts of Archbishop Colton in his metropolitan
      visitation in the diocese of Derry, A.D. MCCCXCVII (Dublin, 1850), 73.

      This suggested link to a Saint Cadoc, missionary to the Morini, whom Colgan
      conveniently placed for commemoration on the same day as the better-known
      Saint Cadoc of Wales (January 24), is not the only source of confusion
      surrounding the precise identity of Caidin of Domnach Caoide or of his
      feastday. For the Irish Martyrologies also list a saint of the same name on
      the previous day, October 24. This Caidin, however, is clearly identified as
      having been a bishop of Iona (or Hy). The Martyrology of Donegal records:


      24. C. NONO KAL. NOVEMBRIS.

      CAETI, Bishop. The Cain Adamnain states that Ceti, the bishop, was one of
      the saints who were security to free the women from every kind of captivity
      and slavery ; and it is likely that it is of him he speaks.
      to which the Notes add:


      Ceti, the bishop. The Annals of Ulster, at 711, and the Four Masters, at
      710, record the death of Coeddi, bishop of Ia, or Iona. This date tallies
      very well with the supposed period at which the synod of Adanman was held.
      Colgan latinizes the name Caidimis. See Trias Thaum., p. 499 a, and Actt.
      SS. p. 162 6, note 2. Caideus, which occurs at the following day, is the
      same name. The blank in the text ought to be filled by the word Domhnach.
      (R.)

      The death of this bishop is also noted by Father Lanigan in his
      Ecclesiastical History of Ireland:


      St. Caide or Caidin, who was bishop at Hy, died in 711 and his name is in
      the calendars at 24 October.

      Rev. J. Lanigan, The Ecclesiastical History of Ireland, Vol 3., (2nd edn.,
      Dublin, 1829), 153.

      The Martyrology of Marianus O'Gorman, incidentally, lists only Coeddi, a
      bishop, on 24 October and has no entry for another saint of the same name on
      the following day.

      So it would appear that there is some degree of confusion surrounding our
      Saint Caidin. It is of course possible that we are dealing with one
      individual here. Saint Caidin could have been both a monastic at a
      foundation of his own in Ireland and then later acted as a bishop on Iona.
      On the other hand, it would seem equally plausible that there could be two
      saints of the same name, one an abbot in the diocese of Derry, the other a
      bishop of Iona. The Iona Caidin of October 24 is clearly identified as
      having died in the early eighth-century, but it may be significant that the
      other Caidin of October 25 is associated with the placename 'Domnach
      Caoide'. The prefix Domhnach is associated with the very earliest church
      foundations in Ireland, and indeed in The Tripartite Life of Patrick there
      is a Domhnach Cati listed as one of the seven churches of Saint Patrick at
      the Faughan River. Thus if we are dealing with two individual saints called
      Caidin, the one commemorated on October 25 who left his 'church, bell and
      staff' may be a very early saint indeed, and thus distinct from his later
      namesake of Iona.

      http://brigid-undertheoak.blogspot.com/2009/10/lesser-known-irish-saints-caidin-\
      of.html



      St. John of Beverley, Translation of his Relics
      ---------------------------------------------------
      See his Life at
      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/celt-saints/message/797


      St. Goeznoveus (Gouernou) of Brittany
      ---------------------------------------
      Born in Cornwall; died 675. Bishop Saint Goeznoveus of Quimper,
      Brittany, brother of Saint Maughan, founded a monastery near Brest,
      where he died (Benedictines).


      These Lives are archived at:
      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/celt-saints
    • ambrois@xtra.co.nz
      Celtic and Old English Saints 25 October =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= * St. Caidin, Confessor in Ireland * St. Canna, Saudren and Crallo,
      Message 2 of 14 , Oct 24, 2013
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        Celtic and Old English Saints 25 October

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        * St. Caidin, Confessor in Ireland
        * St. Canna, Saudren and Crallo, Confessors in Wales
        * St. John of Beverley, Translation of his Relics
        * St. Marnock (Ernin, Ernene), Bishop of Kilmarnock
        in Scotland
        * St. Goeznoveus (Gouernou) of Brittany
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        St. Caidin, Confessor in Ireland
        ------------------------------------

        The feast of a Saint Caidin is recorded in some of the Irish Martyrologies
        for 25 October. The table in the Martyrology of Donegal lists:

        Caoide, abbot, of Domhnach-Caoide, in Tir Eoghain, diocese of Derry, 25 Oct.
        (8 Cal. Nov.); Cadinus in Latin. His church, his bell, and his staff are
        preserved.
        The actual entry reads:


        25. D. OCTAVO KAL. NOVEMBRIS. 25.

        [The festival of CAOIDE, Abbot, patron of .... chaidh.]
        to which the notes add:


        The blank in the text ought to be filled by the word Domhnach. (R.)
        The locality of Domnach Caoide, or Downaghede as it was anglicized, is
        mentioned in a later medieval record of the Diocese of Derry. The editor of
        these records, Bishop Reeves, quoted Colgan, who mentions the 28th October,
        rather than the 25th in connection with this saint. He also introduces
        something of a red herring in identifying Caidin with a Saint Cadoc, a
        missionary to the Morini in France:


        Downaghgede. - Domnach Caoide, Dominica Caidini. " S. Caidinus Confessor
        colitur in ecclesia de Domhnach Caoide, dioacesis Derensis in Ultonia, 28
        Octobris." - (Act. SS., p. 162 &.) Colgan observes that, the termination oc
        being a diminutive, Caidan or Caidin and Caidoc are the same. Caidocus al'
        Caidinus was a companion of St. Columbanus, and the apostle of the Morini.
        The herenagh paid 40s. per an. to the bishop Inq. The ruins of the old
        church of Donaghedy are in the townland Bunowen, a little N. E. of the
        present church (Ord. Surv., s.3.)

        Rev. W. Reeves (ed), Acts of Archbishop Colton in his metropolitan
        visitation in the diocese of Derry, A.D. MCCCXCVII (Dublin, 1850), 73.

        This suggested link to a Saint Cadoc, missionary to the Morini, whom Colgan
        conveniently placed for commemoration on the same day as the better-known
        Saint Cadoc of Wales (January 24), is not the only source of confusion
        surrounding the precise identity of Caidin of Domnach Caoide or of his
        feastday. For the Irish Martyrologies also list a saint of the same name on
        the previous day, October 24. This Caidin, however, is clearly identified as
        having been a bishop of Iona (or Hy). The Martyrology of Donegal records:


        24. C. NONO KAL. NOVEMBRIS.

        CAETI, Bishop. The Cain Adamnain states that Ceti, the bishop, was one of
        the saints who were security to free the women from every kind of captivity
        and slavery ; and it is likely that it is of him he speaks.
        to which the Notes add:


        Ceti, the bishop. The Annals of Ulster, at 711, and the Four Masters, at
        710, record the death of Coeddi, bishop of Ia, or Iona. This date tallies
        very well with the supposed period at which the synod of Adanman was held.
        Colgan latinizes the name Caidimis. See Trias Thaum., p. 499 a, and Actt.
        SS. p. 162 6, note 2. Caideus, which occurs at the following day, is the
        same name. The blank in the text ought to be filled by the word Domhnach.
        (R.)

        The death of this bishop is also noted by Father Lanigan in his
        Ecclesiastical History of Ireland:


        St. Caide or Caidin, who was bishop at Hy, died in 711 and his name is in
        the calendars at 24 October.

        Rev. J. Lanigan, The Ecclesiastical History of Ireland, Vol 3., (2nd edn.,
        Dublin, 1829), 153.

        The Martyrology of Marianus O'Gorman, incidentally, lists only Coeddi, a
        bishop, on 24 October and has no entry for another saint of the same name on
        the following day.

        So it would appear that there is some degree of confusion surrounding our
        Saint Caidin. It is of course possible that we are dealing with one
        individual here. Saint Caidin could have been both a monastic at a
        foundation of his own in Ireland and then later acted as a bishop on Iona.
        On the other hand, it would seem equally plausible that there could be two
        saints of the same name, one an abbot in the diocese of Derry, the other a
        bishop of Iona. The Iona Caidin of October 24 is clearly identified as
        having died in the early eighth-century, but it may be significant that the
        other Caidin of October 25 is associated with the placename 'Domnach
        Caoide'. The prefix Domhnach is associated with the very earliest church
        foundations in Ireland, and indeed in The Tripartite Life of Patrick there
        is a Domhnach Cati listed as one of the seven churches of Saint Patrick at
        the Faughan River. Thus if we are dealing with two individual saints called
        Caidin, the one commemorated on October 25 who left his 'church, bell and
        staff' may be a very early saint indeed, and thus distinct from his later
        namesake of Iona.

        http://brigid-undertheoak.blogspot.com/2009/10/lesser-known-irish-saints-caidin-\
        of.html



        St. John of Beverley, Translation of his Relics
        ---------------------------------------------------
        See his Life at
        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/celt-saints/message/797


        St. Goeznoveus (Gouernou) of Brittany
        ---------------------------------------
        Born in Cornwall; died 675. Bishop Saint Goeznoveus of Quimper,
        Brittany, brother of Saint Maughan, founded a monastery near Brest,
        where he died (Benedictines).


        These Lives are archived at:
        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/celt-saints
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