- As for elevator safety, in a carfree city (or for that matter, any city), I'd want the following
required in any elevator:
(1) Either a backup generator or, for smallish buildings (<=6 floors), some sort of system
to automatically lower the car to the nearest floor and open the doors.
(2) A pushbutton emergency speakerphone and a 24-hour monitoring service.
(3) An emergency bell.
Most elevators I've been on have all this. I once used an elevator DURING a power failure,
thanks to an on-site propane generator.
On the other hand, my mother was stuck on an elevator at her work during a power
failure; an elevator tech had to shut the elevator down and get her out, as she was
At Florida State University, elevator emergency phones go to the university police
department--unfortunately. I once used one when I got stuck, and after 5 minutes of
waiting, forced the door open and walked out--fortunately, I was on level. I called the
police from my office, and they didn't even remember getting an elevator emergency call.
I've heard horror stories of dorm residents using the car-top hatches to escape or
spending 8 hours stuck in the elevators since the police seem to blow off emergency calls
from elevators. This needs to be fixed.
> Todd: Hey, couldnt elevator "kits" be mass produceduk.messenger.yahoo.com
> just like the whatchamacallit street cars from the
> 1910s through 40s, with the obvious EOS (economy of
> scale) benefits, standardisation, etc?
> Buildings could also be designed so that the kit could
> be installed easily and without blocking light, etc.
> This way as the residents of a building change or grow
> older they could choose to have one.
> I am thinking a small one (not for freight, just big
> enough for a wheelchair + one person) could even be
> made to go in a space which on all floors of a
> building is an alcove or closet inside units and just
> inserted from above, with ceiling and floor panels
> removed to let it happen. The other side of the space
> would go do a central landing on each floor, etc. This
> would still take more space but seems to be a good
> compromise since we are deciding this all right now
> Every lift could have a theft-proof mobile phone (I
> think something like this is required in most lifts
> anyway).. but actually this might not be necessary
> because there would never be a time when everyone
> would go away from a carfree city on the
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- Winding up the elevator discussion, Will Stewart said:
>I assume you are talking about flats as the context for the following,Well, no, TWO flats per floor, so they have through ventilation
> where an elevator would service 3 floors above the ground floor, and
>perhaps 4 units per floor at each elevator stop.
and some light from both ends.
>Plus, the human factor of modest scale and a courtyard are also veryoh, yes
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