Re: [carfree_cities] transport question
- At 11:35 PM 4/28/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>Currently, 15,000 transportAbout how long does it take the average truck to get from the back of the
>trucks per day sit idling on our local roads as they try to cross to
queue to the border?
Could the entire line be instructed via radio to stop their engines for 30
minutes while the first few dozen are allowed (by a traffic cop) to make
their way across? Then have everyone move forward and shut down for
another 30 minutes?
Given the high amount of emissions cold engines put out on starting, how
long would the interval need to be to actually reduce emissions?
- There is a funny(sic) project at hand in the Detroit-Windsor area, where the
two existing rail tunnels would be turned into truck only tunnels and a new
rail tunnel (single track) is to be built beside it.
>From: Richard Risemberg <rickrise@...>_________________________________________________________________
>Subject: Re: [carfree_cities] transport question
>Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 21:04:22 -0700
>Forget the Big-Dig style tunnel. Propose a rail tunnel NOW; have it
>built, as roads are, at public expense; have it open to whatever rail
>entities you may have in Canada, or, better yet, have it open to all
>container companies at nominal cost (by which I mean nearly free), with
>shuttle trains operated by the government. The payback would then be
>the benefit to the community and the money saved on future road
>The tunnel should begin in a staging area in the midst of your factory
>locations and end in a similar area in the US. Any cross-border
>paperwork and inspections should take place in the staging areas, which,
>being plazas rather than roads, could have multiple entrances and
>processing stations, all easily policed. Containers, or even entire
>trucks, are easy to load onto railcars with large motorized claws that
>grab the container and muscle it onto the train in about 15 seconds. I
>have watched these at work in LA. (Trailers loaded with finished cars
>would require different treatment, or the cars could simply be driven
>from the factories and onto the trains, as they are for ship transport.)
>By emphasizing that the government would be paying itself profit in the
>form of physcial and social health and reduced public expendituresm
>rather than in cash, you could justify building something like this.
>That's what they did in promoting the Alameda Corridor in LA, which has
>as its primary purpose congestion and smog reduction.
>Chris Holt wrote:
> > I have a question for this list on a topic that is plaguing my
> > community right now. It is one that deals with the entire way that
> > Canadian (as others) move their goods around. Yes, the almighty
> > transport truck.
> > So what do we do in the interm? We realize that long term we must
> > reevaluate the ways in which we trade and move goods, but what do we
> > do right now to quell the diesel fumes we're currently filtering
> > through our lungs? Build a staging area outside the city where the
> > trucks can queue until they're able to cross? Build a tunnel
> > (a-la-Boston's Big Dig) and then convert it to rail when the need
> > permits? Anything we proposed cannot contribute any more to our
> > long-term reliance on this mode of transport.
>"Until you stop looking for simple answers, you will not be happy. You
>will not even be human."
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