Re: [carfree_cities] Heritage Conservation and Car free cities...
- I will send this on to Uran Ecolgy as well; I think there are several
people with the experience you're seeking there....
> hi, im doing a conservation action plan in my country,--
> it's already at its final draft phase. i just want to
> know wether any of our car free members here have done
> such study or experience in their respective field
> traffic is generate from landuse and building
> use/activites. if tehre is total separation between
> traffic and places in town, i think we need to have a
> real support from the existence of real community and
> an integrated transit system. but still we have to
> give rooms for traffic. even in heritage conservation,
> maybe we have to rechanelled the traffic system, but
> we still let them flow in a another area. but we never
> stop them totally. traffic give great effect to
> heritage conservation. but we need really 'alive'
> community in town to make it possible.
> what i see is that, only certain places can the adopt
> the car free theories but some are not practical.
> depends on how organic the town grows.
> all these 2 years i've been reading..and this is my
> first post, by the way im from Malaysia and would like
> to share opinion and experiencee with every respectful
> individuals here. thank you.
> - Shahzarimin Salim
> Johor Bahru, Malaysia
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- Hi Shahzarimin Salim,
maybe this is interesting for you, a project of Expo 2000 :
http://www.autofrei-wohnen.de/ProjekteD.html#Piesteritz, there are some links
and a short information about.
This is the reconstruction of an old gardencity (build in 1916 bis 1919 for
workers of a nearby fabric) in the East of Germany, near the
city of Wittenberg. Special: it is optically carfree for the reason of
monumental heritage, people who live there agreed with the introduction of
carfreeness (cars are outside of the area), and it`s the only case of a
"carfree" housing project I know with this reason. The project leader was Astrid
Lindstedt from "Sachsen-Anhaltinische Landesentwicklungsgesellschaft" (Saleg),
the architect was Mr Fritz Hubert, from Munich in Bavaria/Germany.
Today the owner of the quarter is "Piesteritzer Siedlungsgesellschaft"
(Pieteritz housing company), see http://www.wohnen-psg.de/, contact: Mr. Gerhard
Leske (chief), Mail: leske@..., phone: +49-3491-614715
Markus Heller, Berlin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Min" <smurf5515@...>
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 3:57 PM
Subject: [carfree_cities] Heritage Conservation and Car free cities...
| hi, im doing a conservation action plan in my country,
| it's already at its final draft phase. i just want to
| know wether any of our car free members here have done
| such study or experience in their respective field
| traffic is generate from landuse and building
| use/activites. if tehre is total separation between
| traffic and places in town, i think we need to have a
| real support from the existence of real community and
| an integrated transit system. but still we have to
| give rooms for traffic. even in heritage conservation,
| maybe we have to rechanelled the traffic system, but
| we still let them flow in a another area. but we never
| stop them totally. traffic give great effect to
| heritage conservation. but we need really 'alive'
| community in town to make it possible.
| what i see is that, only certain places can the adopt
| the car free theories but some are not practical.
| depends on how organic the town grows.
| all these 2 years i've been reading..and this is my
| first post, by the way im from Malaysia and would like
| to share opinion and experiencee with every respectful
| individuals here. thank you.
| - Shahzarimin Salim
| Johor Bahru, Malaysia
| Do you Yahoo!?
| Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway
| To Post a message, send it to: carfree_cities@...
| To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to:
| Group address: http://www.egroups.com/group/carfree_cities/
| Yahoo! Groups Links
- On 31-Mar-04, at 11:39 PM, Richard Risemberg wrote:
> The April issue of The New Colonist is online and available now atReading this article equating efficiency with private ownership
> This month's features:
> (...) * A House for Every Lot, a Store for Every Corner
> Eric Miller posits an efficient city and how it might look and
> work in the United States....
reminded me of a website I came across a while ago, which proposes a
grand scheme called Victory Cities (TM) that WILL cure all the ills
that our current ("obsolete") cities suffer from. The inventor of this
scheme proposes to pack some 300 000 or more people into single 102
storey cement+steel+glass-skinned buildings with a choice of a few
different floor plans for already furnished (!) apartments, kitchenless
all of them because everyone will eat in vast central cafeterias. The
inventor of the idea is rather naively certain that since these cities
will be privately owned by a corporation, all the messiness of
non-privately owned cities will disappear.
I find this vision (a new, corporate-owned Ville Radieuse) repulsive --
but I leave it to others to draw their own conclusions.
Here is the link:
Something that I find more encouraging is the website for Ecopolis, an
Australian architecture firm that works with a philosophy based on
environmental sustainability and human-scale architecture. Their
website is an interesting read and has numerous examples of their
projects, and they even have carfree.com in their links page:
Washington DC, USA
- he April issue of The New Colonist is online and available now at
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• Let's Take a Stroll
Jane Holtz Kay on the pleasures and perils of walking....
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The world's paradigm of sprawl inches upward...
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