Commuting in Montreal
- Here's an addendum to my last message.
I think I drifted slightly off point in my reply. Originally, Joel
Crawford had pointed out that 29 minutes spent waiting for a bus can
seem like an eternity in bad weather. My post was prompted by Bijan
Soleymani's response that a 30 minute walk in bad weather can
nonetheless be pleasant in Montreal. The point I had intended to make
was that difference is between (a) walking in a welcoming environment
and (b) being stranded at a bus shelter for half an hour, which often
happened to me when I lived in Longueuil on the South Shore: this was a
major factor that prompted me to move back onto the island to the
older, inner area of town, where walking for a half hour (even an
hour), no matter what the weather, can be an attractive option.
Here's how to find pdf maps showing densities for different modes of
commuting for the Montreal urban area in 1996. Follow this link:
There is a short summary text (in French) describing overall commuting
patterns and a cautionary note that the census results only indicate
the *most important* means (more than one could be used for a given
trip) used to commute reported by those answering the census
questionnaire. After this, there are three headings with their own
summaries: "Transport en commun" (Public transit), "Voiture" (Car) and
"À pied" (By foot). Clicking on these automatically downloads a
detailed PDF map showing density of use for the relevant commuting
choice, over the Greater Montreal urban area.
A final note: I notice that the census maps don't report any data on
commuting by bike or other means. While Montreal by no means equals
Amsterdam or other Dutch cities as a city of cyclists, bike commuting
(less so in the winter) seems to be much more a part of life than in
other North American cities I have lived in, such as Albuquerque,
Washington DC or Winnipeg. Especially in downtown Montreal, enough
people bike around that it is often difficult to find a hitching post
to lock your bike to, and many other (usually younger) people go around
their business on inline skates, push scooters or skateboards. Again, I
think the reason is density: these modes of transport are at their most
practical and attractive probably within a half hour's commute or so,
and would not be used to commute in from the suburbs...
- Christopher Miller <christophermiller@...> writes:
> was that difference is between (a) walking in a welcoming environmentI find that walking half an hour or an hour is always more attaractive
> and (b) being stranded at a bus shelter for half an hour, which often
> happened to me when I lived in Longueuil on the South Shore: this was a
> major factor that prompted me to move back onto the island to the
> older, inner area of town, where walking for a half hour (even an
> hour), no matter what the weather, can be an attractive option.
than taking a bus ride. The problem with the suburbs is not that the
walk is unattractive but that the distances are so great that it is
often impossible to walk there in a reasonable amount of time.
> think the reason is density: these modes of transport are at their mostBikes can be used to commute to work in the suburbs. Many people who
> practical and attractive probably within a half hour's commute or so,
> and would not be used to commute in from the suburbs...
live in the suburbs work in the suburbs. So they can bike to work and
have a commute that is shorted than 30 minutes.
Of course much more people bike downtown.
Bijan Soleymani <bijan@...>