Re: [carfree_cities] night trucking (was Interesting)
- I live in an area near several roads that have pretty much round the
clock traffic, both freight and normal commuters.
The noise is non-stop. The traffic noise from a freeway about 3/4 miles
away from where I live is probably less intense than, say, an air
conditioning unit running on the next house when you have the windows
open, but it's enough to be somewhat annoying.
The interesting part of this is that the noise from a freeway about 3/4
mile away can drown out a car travelling at around 30 mph about 40 feet
away. Large trucks have a quite distinct roar to their movement once
they get to about 45.
Many expressways here are now getting those huge tall noise barrier
walls, which I consider to be more of a curse than a blessing; on I-95
where it passes north of Miami, the walls were installed almost right up
to the edge of the road, leaving no safe place for a disabled vehicle to
be moved off the roadway! In addition, the only openings provided in
these walls are just large enough to pass a 8" firehose through, leaving
no means for someone to step off the roadway after an accident or
I believe that major highways like this should not enter or cross urban
areas, except perhaps in warehouse/industrial districts. I've heard
people complain that major highways bypass cities, but it's better for
vehicle traffic to have to get off and pass into the city at lower speeds.
>I'm curious how shifting truck traffic to the night would affect the
>urban environment. Freeway traffic is the major source of urban
>noise. The nightly reprieve from this noise may vanish as freight
>traffic fills the highways and thoroughfares during the off peak
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- Hi All,
I'm appalled by this proposal to run thousands of heavy trucks through
central LA at night. Isn't the place already noisy enough, all the time?
I know from my own experience that you can hear a busy freeway
(I-95, MassPike) from MILES away if the breeze is from it to you.
Why doesn't the city simply REQUIRE the use of the Alameda corridor
rail link for getting these containers from the coast to inland areas?
It is as if these externalities (noise, unnecessary pollution compared
to railing) just don't count.
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