Re: [carfree_cities] Re: producing oil from waste etc....
- TF, I noticed how you mentioned this lists almost polar opposite,
"Transport-Policy" in your letter.
These two lists deal with issues from different perspectives, one more from
the right and one more from the left. One wants to tear down cities, while
one wants to rebuild them. One sees traffic congestion as problem, while one
sees it as a chance to move on.
One says that government has failed, the other says that the market has
failed, the funny thing is that both are correct on this account.
I like to consider my self as a "left of centre conservative", so I take
some what of a middle of the road approach. I've worked at Canadian Tire and
Loblaws, so I've dealt with mufflers to tires and have spent countless hours
in parking lots. For some this is a wet dream, for some this is nightmare.
Also, just so you know there are highway boondoggles, as well as transit
In my locality, a proposed Autoroute 30 extension and the Laval metro
extension are examples.
For the private sector the Bell(Molson) Centre is also a boondoggle.
I'm not against tolls on roads, so long as the money goes to things like
health care or education.
Big box stores can be better, if they are built with their parking beneath
them and treat their workers with a little more respect.
Pedestrians and transit are important just as with cars, when planning
Suburbs aren't bad (I live in one, St.Laurent), they've just been made worse
over the years.
Also with this item: http://www.demographia.com/rac-montreal.pdf
Economically, Montreal is lucky that there is no belt route and that the
trunk roads (A-20 & A-40) pass through on the island of Montreal.
With the Ste.Julie photos, where are the sidewalks?
As for Mirabel its problems (location and lack of proper road and rail
links) are more of a result of the provincial government then that of the
Till later, Andrew Dawson
>This scheme was also discussed about one month ago on the "CarFree"_________________________________________________________________
>and "Transport-Policy" lists. The conclusions were that 1) The
>garbage can't exist in the first place without mankind having
>consumed _more_ energy when, a while earlier, mankind charged the
>solar battery that is the garbage; and 2) The major problem,
>therefore, that any success of the scheme might significantly address
>is not energy but rather, landfills.
>Still nothing to be sneezed at.
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> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 07:28:12 -0800Actually, that's every twenty minutes during the off-hours. During peak
> From: Richard Risemberg <rickrise@...>
> Subject: HSR
> Was recently on the bullet trains in Japan. 2000-passenger loads
> leaving every twenty minutes from downtowns everywhere, the station a
> short subway or taxi ride from anywhere in any town (think twenty
> minutes max), three levels of service (pay a little more for fewer
> stops). And they turn a profit!
hours the trains run every *five minutes*--and that's just the bullet
On my trip three years ago, I was planning to take the train from Tokyo to
visit some friends in Kamakura (home of the emblematic Great Buddha), which
is perhaps 40 miles south. I phoned my friends to make arrangements and said
that I would have to find out when the trains left.
"Don't bother," my friend said. "The trains run every 12 minutes. Just give
us a half-hour window of when you plan to leave Tokyo Station, and we'll be
there to meet you."
On that same trip, I road a country train that literally served as a school
bus for junior and senior high school students who lived in villages that
were too small to support a secondary school.
Japan truly is transit heaven. On my last trip (spring 2002), I found a
whole new railroad line running into Tokyo Station that had not been there
before, and the subways are constantly under construction. They also have a
second Shinkansen bullet train between Tokyo and Osaka on the drawing board
(it would pass through different cities), because the existing one is
Despite their huge auto industry and some regrettable trends in the
direction of car-oriented development in suburban areas, Japanese will be as
ready as anyone in the world when the oil runs out.