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Re: Should bike racks be placed on public transit vehicles?

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  • Mark Watson
    Bike racks on buses *are* used a fair bit here in Seattle. And like Paul in Austin, some routes are often quite full. One of the 2 floating bridges that
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      Bike racks on buses *are* used a fair bit here in Seattle. And like Paul in Austin, some routes are often quite full. One of the 2 floating bridges that cross Lake Washington, doesn't allow bikes on the roadway; but all buses, including off-duty ones, are supposed to stop for cyclists waiting at the stops. The trouble is, many buses zoom by because their racks are full.

      A small step in the right direction: Sportworks (the local company that makes the excellent bike racks for most of the transit systems in the U.S.) has a new triple rack that is the same size as its popular double, has the same mounts, etc. Here's a pic of the DL3 Trilogy: http://www.bikemap.com/transit/photos_files/bus_bike_rack.jpg
      Sportworks: http://www.swnw.com

      For those folks more interested in these sorts-of things, there is another list: http://topica.com/lists/bikes-n-transit/ It is pretty low volume recently.

      Info from vtpi - Bike/Transit Integration
      http://www.vtpi.org/tdm/tdm2.htm


      And on the concept of 'white bikes':

      Community Bicycle Programs http://www.ibike.org/encouragement/freebike.htm

      Bike Sharing: Case Studies
      http://www.ibike.org/encouragement/freebikerpt.htm

      And, of course, another (low volume) email group:
      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/community-bike/


      Mark

      "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

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      Mark Watson
      Carfree Seattle
      Resource Website - http://carfree_seattle.tripod.com (needs updating!)
      Email list - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/carfree_seattle


      ----- Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003
      From: "J.H. Crawford"
      Subject: Re: Re: Should bike racks be placed on public transit vehicles?

      Hi All,

      There's another, much simpler appoach to this problem,
      which is the use of "white bikes," loaner bikes that you
      "drag and drop." You'd ride your own bike to the transit
      halt, lock up your bike, ride to close to your destination,
      grab a white bike, and pedal there. These systems have
      been tried, successfully, in Copenhagen and unsuccessfully
      in Amsterdam (theft problems in the first attempt 35 years
      ago, equipment troubles with a recent revival).

      IMHO, it doesn't make a lot of sense to try to accommodate
      bikes on buses. It's an operational problem (delays while
      people mount and remove their bikes) and there's no reasonable
      solution to the problem of inadequate space for bikes if more
      than two people want to use them. We can't have city buses
      delayed for several minutes while bikes are being handled.
      With metros (and possibly trams), it would be possible to
      dedicate one car of the train to wheeled vehicles generally,
      arranged for direct roll-on, roll-off loading/unloading.
      I just don't think it works very well with buses, and the
      systems I've seen rarely appear to be used.


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