Re: [carfree_cities] Re: "America's Epidemic of Youth Obesity"--NYT article
- Paul Parma said:
>So what else SPECIFICALLY is there? No pollution costs, etc. please.But you HAVE to include pollution costs, extra defense costs, etc.
>I can't use that at a party, even in Austin. The biggest cost I see
>isn't hidden, but is still sizable -- the direct and upkeep cost of
>car ownership $5K-$6.5K for most, a lot less to me and mine.
These are real costs and can, at least to a degree, be expressed
in dollars and cents. See VTPI for detailed disucssions of these
and many other topics relating to subsidy.
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J.H. Crawford Carfree Cities
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> I see a window of opportunity here. The next year or two are goingShould we be targeting the transportation departments as well as ,
> to be years of budget crises in the USA, especially at the state
> level. ....................
> Are we ready? Can we organize to take adantage of this opportunity?
> Can we start a massive program of writing to legislators and news
> media? Can anyone take responsibilty for coming up with the best
> numbers we've got and working them into some generalized press
> releases? Can others tailor these for local environments and get
> them into the right hands? Lots of work, but some real chance of
> a payback.
maybe even preceding lobbying the legislators? These guys are are the
ones under presure; there's all that federal money, waiting to be
matched, because we are still driving and paying those federal gas tax
dollars, so the federal pile keeps getting bigger, and unused. Won't
the state folks know that as the DIRECT gas taxes go up, the gas usage
goes down. Which I think, if this is in fact so, can be properly
countered with, sure, now you'll have all the money you need to do
what ever people want to pay for.... so trtansit, and most central,
dense building and rebuilding, wil get a fare shake.
To me this is the thing we have to discuss, besides the numbers, and
were it comes from now stuff; that is we need to diccuss what we think
the very astute sense of the xportation administrators to know that if
they raise the gas taxes, revinue, especially in a recovered economy
will be down from what it could be in the current methodology. I
think that the game has in fact changed in that toll roads are now
the previlent building mode.... discussion by more informed