Re: [carfree_cities] Killer streetcars?
- Matt Hohmeister said:
>Streetcar: assuming that a streetcar comes every two minutes at theIt has to be said that here in Amsterdam, pedestrians are struck
>minimum, you have two minutes during which you are *guaranteed* that
>you can step into the track without being hit by a streetcar. Do y'all
>think that 30 seconds of blinking-light warning is enough to tell
>people to not cross the track? Safety-wise, considering how quickly the
>streetcars pass through, and how frequently they come, there would be
>less temptation to sprint across the track on a don't-walk light to
>catch the approaching streetcar--just wait two minutes. Go to an
>American city with a shoddy bus system, and you'll see what I mean:
>people sprinting into 5 lanes of traffic to catch a bus that won't be
>by for another hour.
by trams on occasion, especially tourists, who are not accustomed
to their routes. The reference design presented in the book calls
for the central boulevard to be split if trams are to be used,
so each half of the boulevard has a single track with trams
running in only one direction. This eliminates the risk of crossing
behind a passing tram only to blunder into a second, oncoming
tram on the other track.
>There's no such thing as completely fool-proof, and people have beforeGenerally, the risk is relatively low and considered acceptable.
>been killed by streetcars (but not nearly as much as by cars). This is
>a tragic happening, and I would like to see as little as possible
I still prefer metros, as they eliminate both this risk and
the noise that even the quietest trams will make. (Alas, the
trams here in Amsterdam are incredibly noisy due to poor
>Someone who's been to Strasbourg and used EuroTram, please answer this:It's actually higher, about 14 inches (36 cm or so).
>looking at the picture of it at http://www.carfree.com/pax_trans.html,
>there is a slight curb to the track, much like on regular roads.
>AreI'm not sure, but I don't think so. The boarding platforms
>there any wheelchair cuts along the way to allow wheelchairs,
>strollers, bicycles, and the elderly to cross?
are fairly short, so it's possible to go around one end or the
>And what kind of warningDon't recall, I'm afraid.
>do they have to an oncoming streetcar?
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