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  • Simon Baddeley
    ... From: Susan Marshall To: Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 9:42 AM Subject: Re: Website Contacts
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      From: Susan Marshall <SMarshall@...>
      To: <s.j.baddeley@...>
      Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 9:42 AM
      Subject: Re: Website Contacts Form Feedback

      > Dear Mr Baddely
      > Thanks for your enquiry.
      > I'm sorry to tell you that David Welch left the City Council here in
      > Aberdeen several years ago to work in London and has recently
      > died.
      > We did continue to have heavy horses working in the city (mainly
      > at Duthie Park) until the late 1990s, when a decision was taken not
      > to continue with this and the - by now elderly - horses were retired.
      > We continue to breed heavy horses at Doonies Farm, which is a
      > working farm comprising only rare breeds of horses, sheep, goats,
      > chickens, etc.
      > I have passed your email on to someone in the Council who I hope
      > will be able to provide more details about the experiment with heavy
      > horses and its outcome. I expect her to contact you direct; if you
      > don't hear anything further, please let me know.
      > Susan Marshall
      > Aberdeen City Council
      > On 5 Jul 2001, at 7:52, Website Contacts Form Feedback wrote:
      > > Can you please pass this quote on to the appropriate person in
      > the city so that I can get further information about what happened
      > to this experiment with horse use in the city. is it possible to
      > contact Mr.David Welch refered to?:In a report published 12 years
      > ago by the Shire Horse Society with the support of the Royal
      > Agricultural Society (RASE) “History with a Future:
      > Harnessing the Heavy horse for the 21st Century”(1988)
      > compiled and edited by Keith Chivers MA there is the following
      > (among other v.interesting things): > > Local Authorities > Perhaps
      > the most successful exploitation so far of the dual role of the heavy
      > horse has been achieved by a number of local authorities. Their
      > number is growing and the possibilities almost limitless. The kind
      > of work performed varies enormously, but the social and
      > therapeutic role is essentially always the same, though its value is
      > clearly highest in densely-populated towns. > > The City of
      > Aberdeen > David Welch, Director of leisure and Recreation, is the
      > pioneer of the new horse-movement among local authorities, having
      > introduced two Clydesdales in December 1980 to replace a 35 cwt
      > (hundredweight) van. The Sunday Times commented on the City
      > Council’s “extraordinary courage and immunity to
      > ridicule in pursuing and proving a seemingly unlikely practical point:
      > that heavy horses are not only more attractive than tractors but no
      > less efficient and – closest to the heart of municipal
      > treasurers – actually cheaper to run”. > There are
      > now 14 Clydesdale geldings in work replacing dumper trucks, vans
      > and lorries. There is also a group of brood mares whose foals
      > produce income on sale. The Council has also started a
      > stagecoach service, has five white cobs taking passengers to and
      > from the parks and children round the city, and now runs a landau
      > for use at weddings. Its horses have pulled a street organ and have
      > conveyed civic dignitaries on their tours of inspection of the parks.
      > The number of council-owned horses in now (Sept 1987) 38. > >
      > The book lists about 11 other local authorities experimenting with
      > these ideas. > > David Welch (Aberdeen) was quoted “The
      > technology of the cart is that of 50 years ago, but there are now
      > lighter stronger materials than those traditionally used. Nylon
      > bushes are available for wheels. There are substitutes laboriously
      > cleaned chrome chains and fittings. The College of Technology in
      > the city is co-operating in looking at ways of introducing modern
      > materials … There are advantages in introducing horses
      > beside utility and economy. There is the question of civic
      > cheerfulness. Nothing is quite so agreeable to the eye as a pair of
      > large horses and a cart, their amiability in sharp distinction to the
      > menace and aggression of the motor car. Their hooves make a
      > cheerful rhythmical clatter, and the iron shod wheels of the cart
      > grate with a continuous burr upon the carriageway like the drone of
      > a bagpipe. They elicit smiles from adults and waves from the
      > children.” > Simon Baddeley s.j.baddeley@...
      > Local Government Studies, Birmingham University B15 2TT > > >
      > Susan Marshall
      > Corporate Web-site Service Development Manager
      > Aberdeen City Council
      > St. Nicholas House, Broad Street
      > Aberdeen AB10 1FQ
      > Tel. 01224 522695, fax 01224 523315
      > Visit Aberdeen City Council's web-site at:
      > http://www.aberdeencity.gov.uk
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