Re: [carfree_cities] Car Free Cities
- Andy Morris said:
>One last point, if someone its me at speed, in a car that exceeds the 'fartyI've often wondered why the manufacturers are not routinely
>car' spec, can we not make the manufacturer and retailer take some
>responsibility? They sold a machine that was dangerously over powered and
>encouraged an irresponsible attitude in the driver.
sued in any case in which speeds in excess of the posted
65 mph (in the USA) are involved. It would be simple to prove
in court that the manufacturers are encouraging illegal
behavior. Take this quote (from the book):
Distant thunder, cold as stone,
a V8 screams down from its throne.
One by one, each car succumbs.
this way comes.
Naught-to-sixty in 5.7 seconds: Once a figment of the
imagination, now a fixture of intimidation. All courtesy of
the 300-horsepower, 32-valve V8 which seethes within
this, the fiercest automatic sedan in the world.
The new GS
Faster. Sleeker. Meaner.
and my comment:
Full text of a Lexus advertisement. The car is shown hurtling through
a burned-out forest. What an odd way to sell a car.
The New Yorker Magazine
2 February 1998, inside cover
J.H. Crawford Carfree Cities
- At 06:07 PM 2/7/2001, Andrew wrote in part:
>Andy Morris wrote:Hi, Andrew.
> > Being a car-free individual in a car-addicted city is
> > hard. Once you own a car, the perceived incremental cost per journey is
> > lower than public transport.
> >> This is not true- the car is still very expensive to maintain and if
> you put a
>cost on life, it is definitely cheaper to take public transportation,
>when every 40 seconds somebody dies from an automobile (American Public
I don't think Andy meant that the per-journey cost of auto operation is
lower than public transit. He was reminding us that, once a car owner is
paying all of the other costs of ownership, it may *seem* to that owner
that the additional (incremental) cost of hopping into the car for a trip
to the store is very low, perhaps even cheaper than taking the tram or bus.
This problem of perceived cost is a major barrier to discussing the
relative economies of auto operation vs. public transit. So many of the
costs of automobility are either hidden or paid by society as a whole that
it often seems much cheaper than it really is.
- J.H. Crawford wrote:
>>One last point, if someone its me at speed, in a car that exceeds the'farty
>>car' spec, can we not make the manufacturer and retailer take someDo you think speed governors or photo radar would help? Dawson
>>responsibility? They sold a machine that was dangerously over powered and
>>encouraged an irresponsible attitude in the driver.
>I've often wondered why the manufacturers are not routinely
>sued in any case in which speeds in excess of the posted
>65 mph (in the USA) are involved. It would be simple to prove
>in court that the manufacturers are encouraging illegal
>behaviour. Take this quote (from the book):