RE: [carfree_cities] L.A. bashing (was "The hard activist yards ..)
- Mark Watson wrote:
Ronald Dawson wrote:
>>do you think it would be possible to connect the streetcar lineThey could very be at different gauges, I guess you can always get out a
>>to the tunnel and run them into it?
>I'm not sure. I've only ridden on it a couple of times, prior to my
>interest in transit. And those rides were only on the waterfront. But the
>map shows that it ends near the tunnel.
>Being new to all this, I'm lacking some knowledge & details. Could the
>rails be different widths (gage?). Also, the metro buses use 2 overhead
>wires, while the streetcar uses only one. Perhaps it could just use one of
>the two. I also don't know what changes will be happening to the tunnel if
>the "Link" light rail becomes reality.
tape measure and check, but be careful I wouldn't want you to get hit by a
streetcar or a bus. Standard gauge is 4' 8.5".
The trolley buses use two wires one positive, one negative. A streetcar
would only need to be in contact with the positive wire, the rails would act
as the negative.
http://davesrailpix.railfan.net/odds/wa/jpg/sttc35.jpg (This photo was taken
in Seattle when the streetcars and trolley buses ran together)
http://davesrailpix.railfan.net/sf/htm/sf81.htm (This shows a trolley bus
and a streetcar, but on separate circuits)
LRV's (Light Rail Vehicles) usually collect electricity by means of a
pantograph instead of a trolley pole.
If pantographs are used one possible problem would be short circuits, but
since trolley poles can swing, the wires for the buses could be strung out
of reach of the LRV's pantographs.
>However, I'm fairly positive that the 4 or so sreetcars could not handlethe
>volume. A *lot* of people are served by the tunnel.Your right that four would not be enough, not to forget that they are also
high platform. http://davesrailpix.railfan.net/odds/wa/jpg/swsc03.jpg
In the bus tunnel the waiting areas are at a side walk level.
>BTW, the electric lines for the trolly buses also run on some surfaceI like it how some of your buses have bike racks.
>streets. 55 "sreet miles" acording to Metro