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  • rickrise@earthlink.net
    This page was sent to you by: rickrise@earthlink.net. BUSINESS / ENERGY & ENVIRONMENT | December 21, 2009 A Pro-Bicycle City Faces Trouble Promoting Electric
    Message 1 of 2 , Dec 23, 2009
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      BUSINESS / ENERGY & ENVIRONMENT | December 21, 2009
      A Pro-Bicycle City Faces Trouble Promoting Electric Cars
      By EVAN LEHMANN of ClimateWire
      AMSTERDAM -- Cars in the pinched, medieval streets at the center of this city can quickly clog traffic. The policy has been t...

      http://www.nytimes.com/cwire/2009/12/21/21climatewire-a-pro-bicycle-city-faces-trouble-promoting-el-2513.html?emc=eta1




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    • Richard Risemberg
      ... My own comment cross-posted from the Copenhagenize blog: Electric cars still take up room and require either sprawl or the usurpation of public space, and
      Message 2 of 2 , Dec 23, 2009
        On Dec 23, 2009, at 8:10 AM, Todd Edelman, Green Idea Factory wrote:

        > There is related blog entry and discussion on Copenhagenize...
        >
        > http://www.copenhagenize.com/2009/12/electric-cars-in-amsterdam-
        > and.html

        My own comment cross-posted from the Copenhagenize blog:

        Electric cars still take up room and require either sprawl or the
        usurpation of public space, and usually both. See:

        http://bicyclefixation.com/meth.htm

        The embedded energy in an oil-powered car equals one-third of its
        energy use during tis lifetime; this would not change with electrics
        even were they powered by magic.

        And thirdly, on the bike vs. Tesla comparison, for one thing, for the
        average rider it's 35 kcal/ mile, not 58; for another, is the driver
        of the Tesla dead? If not, he is still emitting almost as much CO2 as
        the cyclist. And the Tesla flack admitted he did not count
        manufacturing (embedded) energy.

        In other words, ZEV=BS.

        RR
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        Richard Risemberg
        http://www.bicyclefixation.com
        http://www.newcolonist.com
        http://www.rickrise.com







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