from COP15: talk about bicycles!
*AMY GOODMAN: *What do you think of this, Mayor Hickenlooper?
*MAYOR JOHN HICKENLOOPER: .... You know, I look at some of the ways that the
Obama administration, they�re doing things that no other administration has
done. You know, he talked to lobbyists that had been working in Washington
for fifty years. It�s the first time that the EPA is working hand in glove
with the Department of Transportation and with Housing and Urban
Development, with HUD, so that if they�re going to give a billion dollars to
a city to build a transit system, how do they make sure that they get
changes in zoning and greater density around each of those transit stops?
How do they make sure they have affordable housing at each of these transit
stops? How do they make sure they take brownfield sites at old factories and
build these new small villages there? *
I mean, those are the kinds of things that, long term, in cities across
America, are going to make dramatic changes and help us reach these
ambitious goals. And they�re already doing that; they�re not waiting to
legislate that. They�re saying, �Alright, how do we get more money for
transit? How do we focus our energies on integrating the federal agencies so
that we can begin moving it?� Because it is. It�s just an enormous challenge
for everyone. They�re not waiting. They�re already doing it.
*AMY GOODMAN: *This is why you�re actually here in Copenhagen, is that
*MAYOR JOHN HICKENLOOPER: *Well, the transit side of it, right. We�re
talking about what are those ways that you integrate transit with bicycles.
I mean, here we are in Copenhagen. Thirty-seven percent of the people in
this city, when they go to work in the metropolitan area, ride a bicycle to
work. I mean, it�s remarkable. Their goal�I met yesterday for an hour with
the deputy mayor of the environment and transportation, Klaus Bondam, and
Klaus Bondam described how their next goal is to hit 50 percent. I mean, to
have half your population, when they go to work on bicycles, they�re
healthier, the air is cleaner, there�s less carbon emissions, you save
money. I mean, the benefits are dramatic, and you can see the difference
just when you walk down the street.
*AMY GOODMAN: *I mean, we were just in the city council last night at like
10:30, 11:00. The whole bottom floor of this century-old building is filled
with not only bicycle racks, but bicycles that fill them.
*MAYOR JOHN HICKENLOOPER: *Right.
*AMY GOODMAN: *And city council members, the guards, everyone are riding in
and out of the city council on their bicycles.
*MAYOR JOHN HICKENLOOPER: *Yeah. When I flew in, the fellow next to me on
the plane is a hotshot young technology expert, makes a huge amount of
money�doesn�t own a car, rides his bike. You know, he says, �It�s healthier.
It�s more fashionable.� It�s�you know, it�s what his friends do. And I think
that�s the whole thing that�when you get to public sentiment, I mean, what
Lincoln was talking about. We need to change our public sentiment so people
want to do these things. And it�s not government coming down and being
punitive, but it�s creating a change, a transformation in our attitudes.
*AMY GOODMAN: *Damon Moglen, do you think the press is creating that�the
education necessary for change, when you have a media in the United States,
for example, brought to us by Exxon Mobil, brought to us by Chevron, brought
to us by BP?
*DAMON MOGLEN: *Yeah, no, I don�t, unfortunately. I think that we are not
seeing the kind of coverage that we need to be seeing. And I think at the
same time that Mr. Obama himself needs to step up and talk more about
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