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[Fwd: [LotsLessCars] Re: Can Foster + Partners' Masdar City in U.A.E be Truly Sustainable?]

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  • J.H. Crawford
    ... J.H. Crawford Carfree Cities mailbox@carfree.com http://www.carfree.com
    Message 1 of 1 , Mar 28, 2008
      >Details about Masdar podmobiles and cargo transport...
      >- t
      >p.s. The magnetbahn for Munich got cancelled!
      >-------- Original Message --------
      >Subject: [LotsLessCars] Re: Can Foster + Partners' Masdar City in U.A.E be Truly Sustainable?
      >Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:10:09 -0000
      >From: Mr_Grant <dgow@...>
      >Reply-To: LotsLessCars@yahoogroups.com
      >To: LotsLessCars@yahoogroups.com
      >PRT does not have to be elevated, it depends on the operating
      >environment and preferences of the political/public process.
      >While the initial Masdar renderings showed an elevated ULTra
      >(ultraprt.com) system, the recommendation of the consultants is for
      >two systems from other companies. A video of the consultant's
      >representative, Luca Guala, is located at:
      >http://tinyurl.com/ypet5l <http://tinyurl.com/ypet5l>
      >It was recorded at a conference on PRT held last October in Sweden.
      >It's mostly him talking, but the picture cuts away occasionally to his
      >powerpoint presentation.
      >The gist is that Masdar is being designed to put the PRT system and
      >other systems at ground level, and the city will be built on a
      >platform above it -- so PRT will essentially be in Masdar's
      >'basement.' One PRT system will serve passengers, while the other
      >will serve cargo; the former is Taxi 2000, a U.S. company, the latter
      >is 2GetThere, from the Netherlands.
      >I don't think there is any mention of scooters or delivery trucks, the
      >only motorized transport in the city will be PRT and two intercity
      >rail lines.
      >--- In LotsLessCars@yahoogroups.com <mailto:LotsLessCars%40yahoogroups.com>, "Chris Bradshaw" <hearth@...> wrote:
      >> Todd,
      >> The car-free component of this plan needs more detail. But from
      >what I can
      >> tell, the personal rapid transit (PRT) will travel within 200 metres
      >of all
      >> destinations (about half the distance used for bus "non-rapid"
      >> That leaves ground level for pedestrians, yes, but also for goods
      >> which will be quite large vehicles for some situations, plus for
      >> scooters for those with walking limitations.
      >> The challenge will be to keep the cargo movements slow and the
      >vehicles as
      >> "transparent" as possible, so that they don't block views, create
      >> endangerment, or otherwise pollute. The vehicle length will have to be
      >> limited -- or broken into short trailers -- to avoid having to have
      >> turning radii (or not, but have pedestrians required to watch their
      >> while yielding to them).
      >> I am tempted, though, to wonder if the benefits of having the 'cars'
      >> above the surface will produce the benefits of ground-level
      >walkability as
      >> much as the fact that the vehicles will be owned by the transportation
      >> provider, not individual drivers.
      >> Such a regime can: a) limit the speeds of the vehicles and/or impose
      >> substantial enforcement by vehicle users, b) reduce the number of
      >> movements, both by making access more bothersome and by allowing for
      >> ridesharing, and c) decrease the number of vehicles in play and
      >> the amount of time each vehicle has to be parked, with all the
      >reduction in
      >> sprawl-inducement and visual blockages that implies.
      >> Chris Bradshaw
      >> Ottawa

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