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8633Re: [carfree_cities] Cost per mile of Road, vs Rail

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  • Thomas C
    Jun 10, 2005
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      why would you include rolling stock and stations in the cost of rail
      infrastructures? do you also include cars and gas stations in road

      On 6/10/05, Lloyd Wright <LFWright@...> wrote:
      > I have been collecting some of this data directly from municipalities for a
      > new public transport book. I do find there is a great deal of distortion of
      > figures. Many times officials are embarrassed by cost over-runs, and thus the
      > numbers given in the press are frequently under-representations. I have been
      > contacting project developers directly to get closer to actual costs.
      > Rail figures can be fudged a bit by excluding rolling stock, fare
      > instrastructure, stations, and land costs. For example, I quizzed San Diego
      > staff over the low figure given for the trolley, which in reality was around
      > US$ 15 million per km. The newer additions to the San Diego system over
      > double this. It is interesting to note that second phases of projects are
      > usually significantly higher due to the high costs of transfer stations.
      > There is also a big difference between developed countries and developing
      > countries. A highway underpass built in Quito (Ecuador) last year cost US$ 1
      > million. The same infrastructure in Europe or North America would be about 20
      > times that number.
      > Likewise, tram systems in developing countries can legitimately be in the area
      > of US$ 12 million per kilometre (Tunis) and most BRT systems are being
      > developed for between US$ 1 million and US$ 5 million per kilometre (Quito,
      > Curitiba, Goiania, Sao Paulo, Jakarta, Taipei, Beijing, Dar es Salaam). LRT
      > in developed nations is running these days from about US$ 18 million per
      > kilometre (Lyon) to about US$ 40 million per kilometre (LA Gold Line).
      > Elevated rail is generally in the range of US$ 45 million per kilometre (Kuala
      > Lumpur PUTRA) to US$ 75 million per kilometre (Bangkok Skytrain). The
      > Shanghai maglev is an outlier for technology reasons at about US$ 320 million
      > per km.
      > The lowest cost underground systems were Mexico City and Madrid (both in the
      > range of US$ 45 million per km). Madrid's underground is really a remarkable
      > story from the standpoint of cost management. Of course, the soft clay
      > underneath Madrid also played a role. At the higher end of underground
      > development is Washington (over US$ 200 million per km), Hong Kong (US$ 222
      > million per km), and London's Jubilee Line (US$ 350 million per km).
      > Best regards,
      > Lloyd
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