7655RE: [carfree_cities] RE: ETT and Canterbury Tales
- Sep 16, 2004
> -----Original Message-----[CLIP]...
> From: CEB [mailto:cyklopraha@...]
> Like any technology, ETT is no panacea. As for me, the most fun train ride
> I ever had was on the way to the Towards Carfree Cities conference in
> I rode by bike on part of our proposed Greenway directly into the main
> train station
Todd, are you saying bikes and trains are the panacea? At one time trains
and bikes had overwhelming market share, as they were seen as a panacea
verses the toil of walking or forcing an animal to toil. Eventually bikes
and trains proved to be unsustainable because of the greater efficiency of
the car, motorcycle and airplane.
Bikes and trains cannot solve the problems of cars and planes - the proof is
70 years old! ETT can and will solve most of the problems of cars and
planes (and eventually cause a few new problems). A small minority refuse
to use cars, preferring walking, horses, trains or bikes; the same will be
true with ETT - some will insist on cars and flight - perhaps if even just
occasionally for fun.
> It takes a long time to get somewhere because it takes a long time to getTodd, do you apply your anti-tech arguments to e-mail vs snail mail? I know
> somewhere....how would "The Canterbury Tales" ever have been written if we
> all travelled around as pieces of advert-reading meat in anti-gravity
> vacuum tubes?
> I am no apologist for sloth. Everything has its appropriate use. First,
> reduce the need for mobility.....
> Todd, Steering Committee, World Carfree Network
several people who praise the virtues of postal mail, and look down their
noises on those of us who only use e-mail. Reducing the need for mobility
is like reducing the need for communication -- yes it COULD work, but it is
not socially sustainable, as the vast majority of people are interested in
improving the quality of life through more choices, and the time to exercise
Yes we could all live in isolation on mini-farms, or live as nomadic
hunter-gathers, the environmental impact would be much worse, and many more
species would be extinct -- or there would be a big die-off in human
Most people who live in urban environs believe they can get by quite well
without mobility. In fact urbanites are wholly dependant on long distance
mobility of food, water, and waste for their very existence.
Most people (even car hating urbanites) quickly see the huge social,
environmental, safety, and energy advantages of ETT compared with trains,
cars and planes.
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