7472Re: [carfree_cities] Status Anxiety
- Jun 30, 2004Joel replied:
> Construction financing for an unconventional project will be more expensiveHow would this make obtaining construction financing less difficult or less
> > and difficult to obtain.
>Unless we can find an insurance company that believes in the need
> > Most sites that have the desired proximity to shops, services and publicI'm missing something here. Some developers (right here in Ventura,
> > transit, will be relatively expensive. High land costs will completely
> > wipe out any potential savings from less car infrastructure, as
> compared to
> > suburban development.
>In California, I'm not so sure this equation would hold. Buildable
>land is now so expensive that the costs of building, say, 4 houses
>on one acre as compared to building, say, 40 apartments would almost
>certainly yield a lower per-unit cost for the carfree project.
California) continue to build detached houses at 4 units per acre, others
build apartments and condos at 40 dua+. The land for both project types is
"expensive", but the land being considered for higher density projects, is
much more expensive than land proposed for suburban development. Are you
suggesting building a carfree project in the 'burbs? ....or praying for
cheap land in a city?
> > If "it's possible to have a car around somewhere" in these projects, andbe moderate, I think. The price in the market may be quite high.
> > they are as beautiful and desirable as we envision, then demand for them
> > will be substantial, and they will command high prices.
>Well, let's not confuse price and cost. The cost to construct should
Yes, let's not. ;^]
I was replying to your comment:
> >I thus see lots of working and middle-class urbanites who wouldHonestly, where could you possibly imagine making carfree housing available
> >snap up carfree housing if it became available, especially at a
> >lower price than sprawl (possibly half the price, given that
> >rooms would be smaller than in the 'burbs).
at a lower price than sprawl?
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