5940Re: don't compare first and third world
- Jun 10, 2003--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "prometeus57"
> > Your point is self-sufficiency, so I would tend to agree, thoughIf getting them hooked on Coca Cola, McDonald's hamburgers,
> > there are many primitive cultures that are completely sustainable
> > and self-sufficient. And yes, their numbers are decreasing every
> > year as we attempt to 'civilize' them.
> You mean, as we DO civilize them.
airconditioning, and automobiles (the point of this group) is
considered civilization, then you are right. But that is hardly
admirable or desirable.
> The noble savage is a myth and a delusion.Um, how many have you known personally? Ok, I thought so.
> North American autochtonesAt least in the propaganda that you read.
> were brutish, nasty and completely uncivilized by any objective
> The primitive cultures are characterized by misogyny, slavery,Sounds like you are describing the US since it's inception. THAT'S
> brutality, misery, squalor, and superstitious fear.
> cultures are automatically superior to the savages' since it takes aI see no discernable benefit from simply controlling 'the real world'.
> certain degree of sanity to concern oneself with the real world,
> investigate it, and develop the extensive technologies to control it
> as we have done.
> Of course, it doesn't take that much sanity, asDispassionate? You said you 'spit on the US".
> should be obvious to any dispassionate observer of either the USA and
> So even though being industrialized doesn't guarantee sanityYou have tried to take a grain of sand and make a mountain. Sorry, I
> (the Victorians certainly weren't), being primitive all but
> guarantees insanity.
don't see anything but a grain of sand.
> You may choose to order your life and beliefs according to theI sincerely doubt that most people share the greater part of your
> anti-scientific precepts of cultural relativism, but most people do
> And shoving your provincial delusions in their face isn't goingI'm writing in a yahoo group that is dedicated to the carfree
> to win you any friends or allies.
lifestyle; what are you doing here?
> In fact, since people value socialYou've managed to contort a strawman; read my previous posts and you
> justice far above ecological sustainability (because the former is an
> immediate concern, while the latter isn't), your eco-freak stance
> ("sustainability" is the only thing worth consideration) alone is
> enough to put other people off.
will see nothing of what you just stated.
Occasionally a dittohead such as yourself wanders through here, and
makes grand pronouncements and gets cheap thrills out of tilting at
windmills. After a while, if they have any semblence of a life, they
are off somewhere else making grand pronouncements and bashing anyone
who holds an opinion other than there own.
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