57RE: [carfree_cities] Ranking US cities
- Apr 9, 2000Marcus Wrote:
>>Mr.Gaarder is also against some thing called "North Star" is this a TwinThat's a long trip for a commuter train, if it's St.Cloud then I guess part
>>Cities commuter rail project?
>Yep. The North Star is a commuter rail from St. Cloud (about 90 miles away)
>to DT Mpls.
of the route will be shared with that of Amtrak's Empire Builder
(Chicago-Seattle/Portland). Maybe this train should be partially
tagged/connected to or on to Amtrak's Midwest Regional Rail Initiative, a up
coming higher speed train service to Chicago (80-110mph).
This URL is from WisDOT http://www.dot.state.wi.us/dtim/bop/planning.html
and this one is from MN-DOT http://www.dot.state.mn.us/ofrw/rail.htm .
>>On a historical note check out http://www.erha.org/plot2.htm and read theThings can get pretty weird. Let's hope for the best that we have more
>>Twin Cities section.
>I've been getting into local history lately on the area, and it's sad how
>much was destroyed and changed, mostly because of cars. Especially
>considering the fine streetcar system and how much rail infastructure they
>had (and still have).
options for traveling in the future.
>>PRT is an interesting concept, but the big question is implementation.Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
>That's going to be it's biggest problem until someone has the guts to try
>it out (although Cincinati looks like a possiblity right now). It's a
>>Trolleys and trolley buses are quite nice. DawsonYes they are.
>Are both these electric?
>Another little debate in Mpls. is the MidtownWould this happen to be the former SOO or BN rail line right of way?
>Greenway - a former train trench from the Mississippi river to the chain of
>now being converted in a pedestrain/bikeway plus some sort ofRail or Busway, that's a good question, but it also leads a lot of other
>transit. The city wants a busway. The Midtown Greenway colalition wants
>LRT, and opposes buses because of the potiental polution buses would cause
>in the trench. Trolley buses were metioned as a comprimise.
questions. Capital costs, operating costs, type of equipment used,
distances, air/water pollution and etc. It's a complex situation that seems
to be best solved on a case by case nature.
Mr.Crawford would have more info.
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