Re: Something to think about....
- "ss43bob" wrote:
> A couple of years ago I posted a message concerning the M.V.KALAKALA, anart-deco designed ferry which operated out of Seattle WA from the early '40s
to 1967, ...
> So that is what one needs to think about when the call goes out to 'save'another ship: while your heart may say "Save 'em All", you have to stop and
realistically ask "Can it-orshould it-be done"?
Your question is an excellent one. While I would love to see several saved,
the realistic truth is that the funds just aren't available to do it, nor
the community support. Would it have been nice to save specific examples,
such as the Wawatam, the Midland, the Aquarama, and others? Absolutely.
However, I'd rather see one or two preserved in the manner that the William
G. Mather is in Cleveland, than to see a dozen around the lakes that are
obviously struggling for funds and losing the battle.
Having said that though, I wonder if we're "missing the boat" on some other
ideas that could work, such as converting the Spartan into a floating
restaurant, hotel, and shopping center combination? Have her earn her keep
again, rather than just being a museum piece. At least she'd still be
around, if not showing exactly what she was "in the day".
My two cents worth.
>At least she'd still be around, if not showingThe CofM is a 'classic' car ferry which is in pretty much in the same
>exactly what she was "in the day".
configuration as when she was launched. This is why she should be the
primary boat to be preserved. She is an example of many sister ships of the
same basic design. I don't really see the value of the Badger, Spartan,
Atktinson, and other greatly modified boats. They may have nostalgia value
to some but are not (IMHO) really of any true historical value.
All resources of Great Lake ferry afficianados should be firstly directed
to the efforts of making the CofM a financially solvent undertaking.
Just my .02.
- Tom and group-- I offer a resounding AMEN ! to your remarks regarding
the necessity of maintaining the City of Milwaukee as an icon
representing the carferry fleet. I have had the privilege of becoming
acquainted with this vessel since she was towed to Manistee. Much
progress has been made in just the last two or three years. Much more is
needed. The upcoming move will help to attract more visitors. If you can
help in any way, please do so. There is lots to do that does not require
a "marine" education. If you can stay a couple of days, we will find a
bunk for you. Thanks.
Crew, City of Milwaukee
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- I just got my Summer issue of "STEAMBOAT BILL" from the Steamship Historical
Society of America and the center-fold article is about the Badger being
named the "2002 SSHSA Ship of the Year." The article is written by Timothy
J. Dacey, the Society President himself. Very good picture and brief history
of the Badger. What an honor, too, to be named thus.
Also, on page 146 is a short article and picture of the Viking. She is to be
cut down to a barge and slated to work between Marathon, Thunder Bay, and
----- Original Message -----
From: "ss43bob" <bigbobs61@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 1:28 AM
Subject: [carferry] Something to think about....
> A couple of years ago I posted a message concerning the M.V.KALAKALA, an
art-deco designed ferry which operated out of Seattle WA from the early '40s
to 1967, at which time she was sold to an Alaskan firm,taken north to Alaska
and converted into a fish processing plant. In the late '90s, someone bought
the ship and had it towed back to Seattle, and a foundation was set up with
the intention of restoring the ferry to museum status. In many ways, their
efforts paralleled the City of Milwaukee efforts: chronic money
problems,fights with local officials concerning dockage, disinterest from
local officals, etc. Unfortunately, in contrast to the SPCM efforts, their
efforts have failed: the Kalakala Foundation was forced into Chapter 7 due
to lack of funds. The ferry and any and all assets go on the auction block
> There have been posts here concerning preserving the Atkinson and/or the
Viking; on the Boatnerd website it seems everytime a laker goes to scrap (a
common occurance lately) there are calls onthe message boards calling to
preserve it. I think the Kalakala illustrates an important point:it is
extremely hard to find both a receptive port and funding to preserve a ship.
And let's face it- if the CoM had not received the US loan to enable it to
obtain the Moonlite Motel property, while not bankrupt they would be in a
world of hurt. So that is what one needs to think about when the call goes
out to 'save' another ship: while your heart may say "Save 'em All", you
have to stop and realistically ask "Can it-orshould it-be done"?
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