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37Re: [capri26] How Much Play is too much play?

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  • Bob Unkel
    Apr 13, 2007
      Re: [capri26] How Much Play is too much play? Tom:
          I am really curious, how much play do you have in your rudder? We have a tiller and Diesel and can get to the rudder post area behind the battery box. The wheel boat I have seen had an additional ‘cover’ dropping down about 2’ below the bottom of the cockpit sole and took up valuable vertical room from the aft berth. This may really make getting to the battery box and area behind a real chore. I take out the cushions when getting into this area just to provide a little more room.

      Bob Unkel

      On 4/12/07 2:15 PM, "Tom Black" <uslaser@...> wrote:


      Thanks for the info Leighton. Unfortunately in my situation it is not a particularly easy job to drop the rudder. My boat has wheel steering and a diesel engine. This makes working behind the aft bulkhead a tough place to be. I think I would have to remove the steering quadrant and a couple of other things I cannot even see because of the fuel tank. This is why I was trying to gauge how much play is typical. It's potentially a bigger project than I want to tackle unless absolutely necessary.

      On 4/12/07, Leighton Westlake <leighton@...> wrote:
      Check the bushings top and bottom.  On mine they are plastic and have lasted without problem. They may have broken and are causing excess play in the rudder.  If I had my choice I would have a bronze bushing made just because I do not trust plastic. It is easy enough to drop the rudder and inspect the bushings.

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      From: capri26@yahoogroups.com [mailto:capri26@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Unkel
      Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 7:30 PM
      To: capri26@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [capri26] How Much Play is too much play?

      On 4/8/07 11:00 PM, "Tom Black" <uslaser@...> wrote:


      Hello All,

      While preparing for bottom paint, I noticed the rudder has some play
      front to back, may be up and down. Does anyone know what is correct
      here. Is any play too much? or is some play typical?


          Just how much clearance do you have or what makes you think there is a problem? These things are not precision fit assemblies.
       There is some clearance between the rudder post and the housing in the hull. The vertical clearance is determined between the tiller fitting and the top of the rudder. There should be a 'washer/shim' between the top of the rudder  and the hull. It is like a big plastic washer.
          Do you have a tiller or wheel steering? If tiller you can remove the single bolt in the tiller fitting that bolts it to the rudder shaft and the rudder will drop down. It weighs about 40-50#. I can 'rock' my rudder back and forth with the tip of the rudder probably moving at least 1". The rudder shaft housing in the hull is just fiberglass and there aren't any 'replaceable bearings' in this assembly. If you have a lot of clearance, you might be able to use a strip of UHMW tape around the shaft or in the housing to take up excess clearance.
          As for a wheel steering, I haven't had one apart so I can't comment. I believe they put the sector gear below the deck and opened up the housing. The shaft is still supported top and bottom. Getting it out will involve tearing apart the wheel steering. Perhaps one of our other members has had this apart and can share their experience with you.

      Bob Unkel



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