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Re\Astrophysicists suggest solar flare could explain carbon-14 bump in AD 774->the year of years cycle

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  • Roger Bagula
    The two dates {774,1859} are important! Lulls and spikes in solar activity are on the same overall activity cycle NSolve[(1859 - 774)/3 == (2009 - x), x] {{x
    Message 1 of 4 , Dec 1, 2012
      The two dates {774,1859} are important!
      Lulls and spikes in solar activity are on the same overall activity cycle
      NSolve[(1859 - 774)/3 == (2009 - x), x]
       {{x -> 1647.33}}
      That fits the Maunder lull.
      2009 - 1647.33
      The 2009 minimum that the Mayan's predicted gives:
      361.67
      The long historical cycle: the year of years cycle
      that topples civilizations...
      3*11^2=363
      On Nov 30, 2012, at 10:26 AM, Roger Bagula <rlbagula@...> wrote:

      14C production is a potential window into the energy of solar proton and other cosmic ray events. It was previously concluded that 14C results from AD 774–775 would require solar events that were orders of magnitude greater than known past events. We find that the coronal mass ejection energy based on 14C production is much smaller than claimed in ref. 1, but still substantially larger than the maximum historical Carrington Event of 1859. 

    • Roger Bagula
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sack_of_Rome_%28410%29 410 +5*361.67=2118.35 five cycles forward of the fall of Rome would be the fall of current western
      Message 2 of 4 , Dec 1, 2012
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sack_of_Rome_%28410%29
        410 +5*361.67=2118.35
        five cycles forward of the fall of Rome
        would be the fall of current western civilization and the start of a new dark ages.
        http://brendabowers.wordpress.com/2008/05/10/those-whofail-to-learn-from-history-are-doomed-to-repeat-it-sir-winston-churchill/

        “Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.” Sir Winston Churchill

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylonia

        The sack of Babylon and ancient Near East chronology

        The date of the sack of Babylon by the Hittite king Mursilis I is considered crucial to the various calculations of the early chronology of the ancient Near East, since both a solar and a lunar eclipse are said to have occurred in the month of Sivan that year, according to ancient records.

        The fall of Babylon is taken as a fixed point in the discussion of the chronology of the ancient Near East. Suggestions for its precise date vary by as much as 150 years, corresponding to the uncertainty regarding the length of the "Dark Age" of the ensuing Bronze Age collapse, resulting in the shift of the entire Bronze Age chronology of Mesopotamia with regard to the chronology of Ancient Egypt. Possible dates for the sack of Babylon are:

        • ultra-short chronology: 1499 BC
        • short chronology: 1531 BC
        • middle chronology: 1595 BC
        • long chronology: 1651 BC
        Average 1566
        -1566+5*362.67=342.35 Ad
        Hittites and Visagoths  in our future...?!
        Five long cycles seems to be the repeating number:
        {-1566 to -1499 , 342 to 410, 2056 to 2118.35}
        Maybe sooner at the rate we are going...
        On Dec 1, 2012, at 5:57 AM, Roger Bagula <roger.bagula@...> wrote:

        The two dates {774,1859} are important!
        Lulls and spikes in solar activity are on the same overall activity cycle
        NSolve[(1859 - 774)/3 == (2009 - x), x]
         {{x -> 1647.33}}
        That fits the Maunder lull.
        2009 - 1647.33
        The 2009 minimum that the Mayan's predicted gives:
        361.67
        The long historical cycle: the year of years cycle
        that topples civilizations...
        3*11^2=363
        On Nov 30, 2012, at 10:26 AM, Roger Bagula <rlbagula@...> wrote:

        14C production is a potential window into the energy of solar proton and other cosmic ray events. It was previously concluded that 14C results from AD 774–775 would require solar events that were orders of magnitude greater than known past events. We find that the coronal mass ejection energy based on 14C production is much smaller than claimed in ref. 1, but still substantially larger than the maximum historical Carrington Event of 1859. 


      • Roger Bagula
        Just what can someone do if he knows that there is this natural cycle that takes away civilizations on a regular basis? Hari Seldon in the Isaac Asimov
        Message 3 of 4 , Dec 1, 2012
          Just what can someone do if he knows that
          there is this natural cycle that takes away civilizations on a regular basis?

          Hari Seldon in the Isaac Asimov Foundation trilogy
          founded two foundations at two ends of the galaxy.

          As you can see this concept is hardly new.
          Starting inn the bible with seven good years and seven lean years
          these cycles have been well documented.
          Dr. Mandelbrot studied the hydrology of the Nile river:
          something that has been documented for the longest period of time
          with the yearly floods of differing magnitude.
          Men like us live and die in less than 1/3 of the long year of years cycle.
          The establishment of a world library is some very safe well defended place
          that can't be burned or sacked might be one answer?
          We are less dependent crop cycles than in the past, but chaotic climate
          and social events still affect us.
          The black plague  event resulted from one solar lull period
          and changed things for ever.
          It is the very old problem of how to make a safe place for your children?
          For all our children...
          Roger Bagula <roger.bagula@...> wrote:

           

          The two dates {774,1859} are important!

          Lulls and spikes in solar activity are on the same overall activity cycle
          NSolve[(1859 - 774)/3 == (2009 - x), x]
           {{x -> 1647.33}}
          That fits the Maunder lull.
          2009 - 1647.33
          The 2009 minimum that the Mayan's predicted gives:
          361.67
          The long historical cycle: the year of years cycle
          that topples civilizations...
          3*11^2=363
          On Nov 30, 2012, at 10:26 AM, Roger Bagula <rlbagula@...> wrote:

          14C production is a potential window into the energy of solar proton and other cosmic ray events. It was previously concluded that 14C results from AD 774–775 would require solar events that were orders of magnitude greater than known past events. We find that the coronal mass ejection energy based on 14C production is much smaller than claimed in ref. 1, but still substantially larger than the maximum historical Carrington Event of 1859. 



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