Re: Digest Number 177
- To respond the the Vincent's query about what is above the headliner--Nothing. I
mean it. Really, there is nothing above it. There are some small teak blocks
around the dorade openings and some small shaped firring strips at the sides where
the headliner butts up to the vertical sides which create a bit of curvature, to
attach the plastic strips to but otherwise the plastic strips were screwed right
into the fiberglass. The fibergalss is rough. In fact directions and numbers are
written in pencil on the fiberglass. Right next to the companionway opening there
is a little sentence written in pencil--"Help, I am being held captive in a
brothel." Some workman's idea of a joke, I think. ...Probably thought nobody
would ever see it. I plan on making rigid panels and innsulating them. I plan on
making the panels the same size as the fabric pieces I removed with teak strips
where the old seams were. Theoritically these will be easier to handle / install,
and manipulate in the cabin. A woodworker friend is going to help me do this
because I am not a woodworker. But I think things will turn out ok, and I am
looking forward to innsulation in the tropics--I hope it makes a difference down
below. If anyone has any better ideas---I am very interested. I have only taken
down the fabric panels and plastic strips--Not cut or installed anything yet.
Sincerely---Cristina Staats aboard Iona CN 35, hull # 135
- At 06:46 PM 3/31/99 -0500, you wrote:
>From: Jack & Cristina Staats <chivaree@...>............
But I think things will turn out ok, and I am
>looking forward to innsulation in the tropics--I hope it makes adifference down
>below. If anyone has any better ideas---I am very interested. I haveonly taken
>down the fabric panels and plastic strips--Not cut or installed anything yet.Christina & CN List:
>Sincerely---Cristina Staats aboard Iona CN 35, hull # 135
I too have pulled out all headliners on my CN 48 - and while I haven't
found the personal notices which Christina joyfully discovered, the rest of
her description is right on.
I plan to put in 1/4 to 1/2" insultation - and then cover with appropriate
headliner material, held in plan by teak strips - sounds much like the
others plans. I don't know if there were any takers on the offer of the
original plastic crimp strips, if so I will feel badly cause I junked all
Incidentally, in the FWIW department, I would offer the following. I am
replacing all my plastic ports - which had turned very cloudy over the
decades. It was a major job to remove them from the aluminum frames - but
finally accomplished same without significant damage to the frames (I
hope). When I took the removed plastics to a plastic fabricator in
Cleveland, Ohio, I received a major major shock. They estimated the
replacement cost for each piece at between $500 and $700. The small
crescent shaped ports at the end of the front cabin and rear cabin - not
more than 12" x 24" for $500!!!! At this price, I could have put up with
the opacity problem:!!
The story has a happy ending, I think. Subsequently I took them to a
plastics house in Toledo, Ohio - Allied Plastics by name. They have given
me an estimate of $25 for the small pieces - and still waiting for the
details on the large windshield portions.
I am keeping my fingers crossed - but am optimistic. It certainly does pay
to shop around.
s/v Equus, CN 48, on the hard in Sandusky, Ohio
"I know nothing - nothing do I know - but I go to free myself from the
Wheel of Things by a broad and open road." R. Kipling.
- Jack and Christina
It seems like everyone is interested in replacing the headliner at some
point. I have a few questions about your headliner project on Iona:
*What were you planning to do, if anything, with the interior vinyl covered
area where the windows are placed?
*Are the teak handrails on the exterior cabin top bolted through the cabin
top? I am in the process of refinishing the handrails and originally had in
mind that it might be easier to remove them in order to work on them.
However, I couldn't back out the few fasteners that I tried and assumed that
they must be bolted through the cabin top. I'm just refinishing them in
place since I didn't want to mess with the headliner.
*Is there anything else that passes through the cabin top other than the mast
and hatch which might take rebedding in order to avoid future leaks?
I appreciate your help. Good luck with your project
CN 35 #68