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  • Koos Opperman
    More almal, Die Amerikaners het n debat aan die gang oor die uitreiking van n seel ter verering van die Moslems. Ek het my kop in daardie bynes gaan steek en
    Message 1 of 2 , Jun 2 1:03 AM
      More almal,
      Die Amerikaners het 'n debat aan die gang oor die uitreiking van 'n seel ter
      verering van die Moslems.
      Ek het my kop in daardie bynes gaan steek en hulle na ons Volk in RSA verwys
      wat alle grense oopgooi en alles gelykstel.
      Nou vra die Becky Morton ( lees hier onder) my waar kan sy meer hiervan te
      lese kry.

      Het iemand dalk 'n webblasy waarheen ek haar kan verwys?
      Ek sal haar graag wil help.

      Veskoon my engels.Dit gaan om die boodskap.
      Dankie solank

      Koos Opperman
      Naboomspruit
      RSA
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Becky Morton" <morton03@...>
      To: "Koos Opperman" <opperman@...>



      > Hi Koos,
      >
      > Questions for you within your e-mail:
      >
      > --- Koos Opperman <opperman@...> wrote:
      > > I am a friend of Bob Perz from South Africa,
      > > Our God is God the Father,God the Son and God the
      > > Holy Spirit.That is not
      > > the God of the Muslim.
      >
      > B: Yes. Just because it's different. That makes it
      > wrong or bad? Just trying to understand where you're
      > coming from.
      >
      > > You Americans are a Christian Nation and you must be
      > > carefull not to
      > > honoring the Muslim god.
      >
      > B: Why?
      >
      > Muslim are not
      > > Christians.
      >
      > B: Yeah. So...
      >
      > Will they honor our God?
      >
      > B: Don't know. GOOD question. BUT what about doing
      > good just for the sake of good. Like helping someone
      > move some things into their new apartment just because
      > you have a few minutes to assist (just an example)?
      >
      > > The Bible learn us not to be ashame of Jesus
      > > Christ.
      > > God's eye is on you as a Nation.You are a big
      > > Nation,but be carefull of the
      > > punishment of God because of your disobedience of
      > > His Word.
      >
      > B: I don't think/believe that just because I
      > personally don't think it's wrong/bad that other
      > people have different religions, that I will be
      > "punished" for that. I don't believe that our God is
      > like that.
      >
      > > In the name of God,do not honor the Muslim with a
      > > stamp.
      > > Come and have a look what happened to the Boere
      > > Afrikaner Nation in South
      > > Africa after Goverment opened their religion
      > > borders .
      >
      > B: What happened? Tell me or send me somewhere so I
      > can learn/know. I do not know...
      >
      > > Regards
      > > Koos Opperman
      > > Naboomspruit
      > > Northren Transvaal
      > > South Africa
      > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > From: "Becky Morton" <morton03@...>
      >
      > > Subject: Re: Unbelievable (?)
      > >
      > >
      > > > From Becky Morton (One of Gini Perz's
      > > > granddaughter's):
      > > >
      > > > I liked/like what David wrote... I have a
      > > question
      > > > for Mike Elrod: Why can't/shouldn't we have a
      > > stamp
      > > > honoring the Muslim religion? Isn't the whole
      > > idea of
      > > > the USA to accept people of DIFFERENT backgrounds,
      > > > religions, etc.? I'm just tring to understand
      > > where
      > > > you're coming from is all... And yes, you can't
      > > blame
      > > > all Muslims for 911. Just like you can't blame
      > > all
      > > > Germans for what happened to the Jewish people.
      > > >
      > > > And another question: Even IF they don't worship
      > > the
      > > > same God as ourselves. What does that matter? As
      > > > long as they believe in something. A higher
      > > power.
      > > > And as long as the overall message is something
      > > like,
      > > > "treat others how you'd like to be treated..."
      > > what
      > > > does the rest matter? Yet AGAIN, just a question.
      > > Am
      > > > trying to understand where you're coming from is
      > > > all...
      > > >
      > > > Becky
      > > >
      > > > --- Mike Elrod <melrod@...> wrote:
      > > > > David wrote:
      > > > > Their God is the God of Abraham as is mine and I
      > > > > praise God this Sunday morning for all that has
      > > been
      > > > > given me, including life in this free, strong
      > > and
      > > > > rich country and for the men and women like
      > > yourself
      > > > > and others on this list who make it so.
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > If the Muslims don't believe in the diety of
      > > Jesus,
      > > > > and Jesus and God are one in the same, then how
      > > can
      > > > > they worship the same God?
      > > > > Just a question.
      > > > > I agree we shouldn't blame all Muslims for the
      > > > > atrocities like 911, but I do not believe we
      > > should
      > > > > have a stamp honoring the Muslim religion.
      > > > > Mike Elrod
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > =====
      > >
      > > >
      > > > __________________________________
    • Francois Van Deventer (VSP)
      u kan gaan kyk by die webadres: http://www.signpostspublications.com/roca/listroca.html hier is nuusgebeure van wat in Suid-Afrika gebeur het sedert 1996. Ek
      Message 2 of 2 , Jun 2 2:02 AM
        u kan gaan kyk by die webadres: http://www.signpostspublications.com/roca/listroca.html
        hier is nuusgebeure van wat in Suid-Afrika gebeur het sedert 1996. Ek is besig om die dele vanaf 1989 tot en met 1996 persgereed te kry.

        groete
        Francois van Deventer
        ?? +27 11-5461432
        ??? +27 72-3428528
        ? ? +27 11-5461477
        ? francois.vandeventer@...

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Koos Opperman [mailto:opperman@...]
        Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 10:03
        To: Calvyn Poslys
        Subject: [calvyn] Fw: Unbelievable (?)

        More almal,
        Die Amerikaners het 'n debat aan die gang oor die uitreiking van 'n seel ter
        verering van die Moslems.
        Ek het my kop in daardie bynes gaan steek en hulle na ons Volk in RSA verwys
        wat alle grense oopgooi en alles gelykstel.
        Nou vra die Becky Morton ( lees hier onder) my waar kan sy meer hiervan te
        lese kry.

        Het iemand dalk 'n webblasy waarheen ek haar kan verwys?
        Ek sal haar graag wil help.

        Veskoon my engels.Dit gaan om die boodskap.
        Dankie solank

        Koos Opperman
        Naboomspruit
        RSA
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: "Becky Morton" <morton03@...>
        To: "Koos Opperman" <opperman@...>



        > Hi Koos,
        >
        > Questions for you within your e-mail:
        >
        > --- Koos Opperman <opperman@...> wrote:
        > > I am a friend of Bob Perz from South Africa,
        > > Our God is God the Father,God the Son and God the
        > > Holy Spirit.That is not
        > > the God of the Muslim.
        >
        > B: Yes. Just because it's different. That makes it
        > wrong or bad? Just trying to understand where you're
        > coming from.
        >
        > > You Americans are a Christian Nation and you must be
        > > carefull not to
        > > honoring the Muslim god.
        >
        > B: Why?
        >
        > Muslim are not
        > > Christians.
        >
        > B: Yeah. So...
        >
        > Will they honor our God?
        >
        > B: Don't know. GOOD question. BUT what about doing
        > good just for the sake of good. Like helping someone
        > move some things into their new apartment just because
        > you have a few minutes to assist (just an example)?
        >
        > > The Bible learn us not to be ashame of Jesus
        > > Christ.
        > > God's eye is on you as a Nation.You are a big
        > > Nation,but be carefull of the
        > > punishment of God because of your disobedience of
        > > His Word.
        >
        > B: I don't think/believe that just because I
        > personally don't think it's wrong/bad that other
        > people have different religions, that I will be
        > "punished" for that. I don't believe that our God is
        > like that.
        >
        > > In the name of God,do not honor the Muslim with a
        > > stamp.
        > > Come and have a look what happened to the Boere
        > > Afrikaner Nation in South
        > > Africa after Goverment opened their religion
        > > borders .
        >
        > B: What happened? Tell me or send me somewhere so I
        > can learn/know. I do not know...
        >
        > > Regards
        > > Koos Opperman
        > > Naboomspruit
        > > Northren Transvaal
        > > South Africa
        > > ----- Original Message -----
        > > From: "Becky Morton" <morton03@...>
        >
        > > Subject: Re: Unbelievable (?)
        > >
        > >
        > > > From Becky Morton (One of Gini Perz's
        > > > granddaughter's):
        > > >
        > > > I liked/like what David wrote... I have a
        > > question
        > > > for Mike Elrod: Why can't/shouldn't we have a
        > > stamp
        > > > honoring the Muslim religion? Isn't the whole
        > > idea of
        > > > the USA to accept people of DIFFERENT backgrounds,
        > > > religions, etc.? I'm just tring to understand
        > > where
        > > > you're coming from is all... And yes, you can't
        > > blame
        > > > all Muslims for 911. Just like you can't blame
        > > all
        > > > Germans for what happened to the Jewish people.
        > > >
        > > > And another question: Even IF they don't worship
        > > the
        > > > same God as ourselves. What does that matter? As
        > > > long as they believe in something. A higher
        > > power.
        > > > And as long as the overall message is something
        > > like,
        > > > "treat others how you'd like to be treated..."
        > > what
        > > > does the rest matter? Yet AGAIN, just a question.
        > > Am
        > > > trying to understand where you're coming from is
        > > > all...
        > > >
        > > > Becky
        > > >
        > > > --- Mike Elrod <melrod@...> wrote:
        > > > > David wrote:
        > > > > Their God is the God of Abraham as is mine and I
        > > > > praise God this Sunday morning for all that has
        > > been
        > > > > given me, including life in this free, strong
        > > and
        > > > > rich country and for the men and women like
        > > yourself
        > > > > and others on this list who make it so.
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > > If the Muslims don't believe in the diety of
        > > Jesus,
        > > > > and Jesus and God are one in the same, then how
        > > can
        > > > > they worship the same God?
        > > > > Just a question.
        > > > > I agree we shouldn't blame all Muslims for the
        > > > > atrocities like 911, but I do not believe we
        > > should
        > > > > have a stamp honoring the Muslim religion.
        > > > > Mike Elrod
        > > >
        > > >
        > > > =====
        > >
        > > >
        > > > __________________________________





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