Thanks for the response. I thought it was interesting that ya'll had
done _the_ test but not connected. Did all three families live in the
I just want to mention that the surname Węgrzyn means "from Hungary"
so it is possible that some of the Węgrzyns you find won't be related
and that several people took or received that surname simply because
they were from Hungary originally.
Please keep us updated as this is an interesting situation.
> Hi Debbie,
> I can tackle some of those questions. First, we're talking strictly
> FTDNA Family Finder tests here, so yes, it's the same level of testing,
> and since the test is autosomal, the question of 'direct male line'
> doesn't apply here. I compared my kit, Frank's kit, and the two Celotto
> kits using Chromosome Browser. Frank and I share several significantly
> large segments. I share smaller segments of different chromosomes with
> the Celotto kits, but there are no significant shared segments between
> Frank and the Celotto's. That, of course, does not at all mean there
> isn't a direct genetic relationship. Given how autosomal DNA constantly
> recombines, it's purely luck of the draw how much is inherited from any
> one specific ancestor.
> Frank and I have really solid paperwork trails going back to the early
> 1800's. We're all hoping that the research (by Maciej) pending for Susan
> will help immensely to connect the missing dots.
> *From: *"Debbie Greenlee" <daveg@...>
> *To: *"bukowsko triangle" <email@example.com>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, February 25, 2014 8:02:48 AM
> *Subject: *[bukowsko_triangle] DNA was phonebook for Sanok
> Something you wrote indicates that a DNA match did not appear between
> Paul, your husband, Dave Pacek and Frank Wegerson yet all three have
> Węgrzyn in their ancestry. Is this correct?
> Did all three do the same level of testing?
> Do all three have the surname Węgrzyn in a direct male ancestral line?
> Have all three done the "paperwork" to the same depth and included the
> same lateral lines?
> Is Twardy a direct male ancestral line for Paul, Dave and Frank?
> (I see that Paul's Twardy line goes through a female line)
> Who is the researcher you are using and exactly where are they doing
> the research?
> Susan Celotto wrote:
> > Thanks Penny! I have been in contact with both Dave and Frank. My
> > husband, Paul, is the one with the Polish ancestry and I am working to
> > trace his tree. He took the Family Tree DNA test and matched Dave Pacek
> > but not Frank Wegerson. Dave took a look at all three matches
> > (his, Frank's, and Paul's) and thinks that he (Dave) and Paul must be
> > related on the Twardy side and not the Wegrzyn side. Have you taken the
> > Family Tree DNA test yet? If so, I will look to see if you and my
> > husband match.
> > My husband's grandmother was Albina Twardy and her parents were Joseph
> > Twardy and Franciszka Wegrzynowska. She died at the age of 35 (in 1905)
> > and her death certificate lists her parents as Matthew Wegrzynowski and
> > Catherine Pitchloga -- so, our two Franciszka Wegrzyn's are not the same
> > person but I'm sure that they are related somehow since the town is so
> > small.
> > I have a researcher in Poland who will be starting work in the Catholic
> > Archives next week. I will post whatever he finds so that others can
> > take a look to see if they recognize any of their own family members.
> > Susan