Re: The Conversion of John C Wright
- On 05/01/2007, at 9:13 PM, William T Goodall wrote:
>>*cough* Something like that... I find your schtick a bit tiresome,
>> He "certainly" isn't. Strident, forceful and rude, vicious in parody
>> and a baiter who goes far too far in getting his rise out of people.
> You calling me a master baiter Charlie?
but not as tiresome as seeing the same couple of people on the same
couple of lists rise to the same bait every time.
>> It's both. When organisations protect those among their number (asOr that one.
>> with the recent and ongoing Catholic Church abuse revelations),
> Or the emerging Rabbi abuse scandal in New York.
>Organised religion is a subset of the groups that are susceptible to
>> organisation and mind-set behind it is just as fair game as the
>> individual perpetrators. Individuals are wholly responsible for their
>> own actions, but any organisation or movement that protects the
>> guilty from justice and responsibility is just as guilty.
> That's religion!
subversion by the immoral, and especially in the case of Christianity
where obedience to a particular interpretation is encouraged to the
detriment of healthy inquiry, and there is an organisation as a whole
to be protected, these things are more easily swept under the carpet.
I don't see that there's any reason to tar all religion with the same
brush, but I do think the days of assuming that religious groups are
more moral are over and need to be put aside - all groups need to be
examined on their own merits.
> Klaus Stock <ks@...> wrote:<some snippage throughout>
> "I, who did not until that moment even believe the
> word 'spirit' had any meaning" (JCW's words)
> In fact, 'spirit' has several meanings:And one by John Denver; I wish I were advanced enough
> - breath
> - courage
> - ghost
> - the B2 stealth bomber
> - the MER-A mars rover
> - the asteroid 37452
> - an album by the band "Spirit", also an album by
> Jewel, another one by Eluveitie
> - a song by Faith No More
in dressage to be able to ride a routine to that one.
'His spirit joined and so was formed
Ten thousand years ago
Between the Swan and Hercules
Where even dark clouds glow.
To live with Grace, to ride the swell
To yet be strong of Will
To love the Wind, to learn her song
And empty space to fill'
> - a character from G.I.Joe, another character fromAnd of course Spirit, Stallion of the Cimmeron.
> She-Ra, another on from Öban Star Racers
(I _did_ say I was in serious horse withdrawal, did I
not? *3 weeks* without a ride!!!)
> - alcohol, or...an alcoholic solution of a (medical)Debbi
> - enthusiasm
> - intent, purpose
> Yup, and also 'soul'. Plus a part of the Holy
> Trinity. Almost forgot this one :-)
Heretic Lutheran Gaian Deist Maru ;)
"And Allah took a handful of South Wind, saying, 'I
will of thee a creature: condense thyself!"
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