108Re: [bowesgenealogy] Re: New Academic Study Being Planned for Males from Bowes Area of England ...
- Jan 31, 2009
Anglo derives from 'Angli'[ which meant......Saxon ,so Anglo Saxon means 'Saxon-Saxon' these peoples came from what we now call Southern Denmark, Frisia (Holland) and Northern Germany.
From: mhbowes11 <martha.bowes@...>
Subject: [bowesgenealogy] Re: New Academic Study Being Planned for Males from Bowes Area of England ...
Date: Saturday, 31 January, 2009, 5:24 PMMeaning most Anglo-Saxons who went to S. England came directly from Germany, while
some Anglo-Saxons who had migrated up to Denmark, then came down into N. England,
making a heavier influx in S. England, with a smaller but significant percentage in N.
--- In bowesgenealogy@ yahoogroups. com, Allen Bowes <bowes2000@. ..> wrote:
> Hold on to the fact that the name Bowes is strongly attached to North
Yorkshire/Durham, which just happened to have experienced considerable Danish influx
during the 8th to 10th Centuries
> --- On Sat, 31/1/09, mhbowes11 <martha.bowes@ ...> wrote:
> From: mhbowes11 <martha.bowes@ ...>
> Subject: [bowesgenealogy] Re: New Academic Study Being Planned for Males from
Bowes Area of England ...
> To: bowesgenealogy@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Saturday, 31 January, 2009, 2:29 PM
> Oops, now it appears the forum poster was more accurate and there is a different
> of Viking DNA in Yorkshire area:
> An interesting mention at the bottom of the article: http://www.yorkshir epost.co.
uk/news/39Time- team39-to- seek-out. 4930477.jp
> "Most Northerners have either Celtic or Viking blood running through their veins.
> Although we also think or ourselves as mixed with the French, that is not strictly true.
> Historians say the Normans merely established a ruling class to run England after the
> 1066 Conquest and there is no evidence of much movement by ordinary French people
> to England.
> Although we speak English, Anglo Saxon genes are weak in the North because settlers
> showed little inclination to move into Celtic territory."
> My father's Bowes, Viking Y-DNA has been estimated Anglo-Saxon, leaning toward
> German by Ken Nordvedt, so maybe there are exceptions to Anglo-Saxons up north,
> maybe Ken's research isn't on point yet, or maybe my line was a Bowes originating in
> another part of England for some reason.
> --- In bowesgenealogy@ yahoogroups. com, "mhbowes11" <martha.bowes@ ...>
> > I guess the forum poster was a little off, in that the study is not as much about
> > makeup of the region, as it is about whether surname/Y-DNA databases can help
> > forensic investigators identify a person who is unidentified! There is a 3rd bullet:
> > "We will also use surnames to find groups of men who share common paternal
> > and then assess the increased efficiency of searching for shared segments in other
> > of the genome in these groups. Our goal here is the demonstration that the amount
> > shared DNA fits predictions from family trees, and that Y chromosome type can
> > general genetic relatedness. This could then be applied to searches for genes
> > disease."
> > Official site: http://www.le. ac.uk/genetics/ maj4/NewSurnames .html
> > --- In bowesgenealogy@ yahoogroups. com, "mhbowes11" <martha.bowes@ >
> > >
> > > From a Guild forum post:
> > >
> > > "There has been an interesting account in today's Yorkshire Post concerning a
> > proposed
> > > DNA investigation by Leics University who conducted the investigation in the
> > Wirral/West
> > > Lancs, recently publicised on the Forum (and in our message list). They are
> > men
> > > whose father's father was born in Cumbria, Lancashire, Cheshire, North Yorkshire,
> > Durham
> > > or Northumberland. The use of modern county titles is somewhat confusing,
> > Yorks
> > > includes a very large chunk of the old West Riding - the wider Skipton area etc.,
> > > Oddys occurred. I have emailed Dr King to say I would publicise the project on the
> > Guild
> > > Forum. The samples will be swabs sent through the post. There is no indication of
> > time
> > > scale, that probably depends on response. I hope it may be of interest to some
> > GoONS."
> > >
> > > I plan to post this to our surname message boards on the web where there are a
> > number of
> > > posters from that area who've never contacted me re: our DNA study. The study
> > not
> > > say a lot about our surname specifically, but would be nice to be "represented. "
> > > certainly an established name there with a matching town name to boot.
> > >
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