Re: [borderpoint] Historic exclave in Berlin / Eiskeller
- It's interesting to see how grown over that area has become. I have
photos of it from pre-exchange days when I toured the area as a member
of the US Forces - it was nicely groomed farmland then. I recall
jumping over the narrow strips of DDR just for the fun of it.
I disargee that the little triangle exclave was the last DDR exclave in
Berlin - below, I have pasted notes I have in my files about other areas
- one - Tiefwerderwiesen - is still today, to the best of my knowledge,
not part of Berlin city - but an exclaved of Seeburg - which used to be
in the DDR (or most was, until some weird border rectifications were
made between the British and the Russians at Staaken, which involved
people from Seeburg..
1. Tiefwerderwiesen -
former DDR exclave in W. Berlin (See photo - "DDR exclave")
Commentary to the map. The grey portion is from the Flurkarte in the
Spandau city hall Vermessungsamt - greyed to make the faint line of the
as visible as possible. The area noted as "Enklave zu Seeburg" (Plots
375 and 376 / 31) correspond to the area noted in the
color map inset as "Tiefwerderwiesen" in block 6b.
There are two other enclaves noted in the grey Flurkarte, both marked as
"Enklave zu Tiefwerder". Tiefwerder is SW
of Spandau, and prior to occupation of W. Berlin by the western allies,
was not part of the Berlin city lands. Seeburg, on
the other hand, is a town west of Spandau, in East German territory.
It's situation made the "Enklave zu Seeburg" an
international exclave whereas the two "Enklaves zu Tiefwerder" were
communal level enclaves until Tiefwerder was made
a suburb within W. Berlin city. Parts of Seeburg were involved in a
trade between the British and Russians.
This Flurkarte stems from the time of the trade of the East German plots
to the west - hence the crossing out of the Enclave
notation and the substitution of the abbreviation "Grdb. Bez. Seeburg"
and the earlier private property plot numbers from
the pre-war Grundbuch of Seeburg, to replace the status of the property
from being private plots to territory belonging to the DDR state
(which was not fully recognized as a sovereign state by the Western
Allies or the Federal Republic at the time the trades of other territory
Other notes on other related peculiarities:
2. Antenna - Russian Exclave Landkreis Niederbarnim DDR - See photo
"Zehlendorf..." (I know - outside of Berlin, but interesting nevertheless)
RE: Radio: The Radio Station Building "Haus des Rundfunks"located in
British sector, occupied by the Soviets and handed over toEast German Radio
operators (Berliner Rundfunk). After the East German occupation of
Steinstuecken in 1951, the British began to deny Sovietrights over that
MP cordoned off the building,allowed everybody to leave but nobody
(German) to enter.Berliner Rundfunk then continued to operate from
but thebuilding stayed under Soviet occupation until 1956 when it was
handedover to the West
3. Russian War Memorial in W Berlin also lasted until after
unification as piece of Russian Zone in British sector. Russians handed
it over to Fed Rep Germany (Berliner Landesregierung)..
on Dec 22, 1990.
That wasn't a DDR enclave ever, so doesn't count as last DDR enclave
like the one at Eiskeller, but it appears to be the last Russian one.
> I visited the most strange boundary in the history of West Berlin and the last East German exclave in West Berlin until 1988.
> Sorry, in german tone only.
> The last East German exclave:
> Maps of the strange borderline und the exclave:
> Exclaves Eiskeller North and South:
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- Ein bisschen spaet, aber jedoch: vielen Dank!MfG,FrankOn 15 November 2012 11:41, beeblebrox3003 <beeblebrox3003@...> wrote:
I visited the most strange boundary in the history of West Berlin and the last East German exclave in West Berlin until 1988.
Sorry, in german tone only.
The last East German exclave:
Maps of the strange borderline und the exclave:
Exclaves Eiskeller North and South:
Frank JacobsLondon, UK