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  • Daryl Brown
    I for one would be very interested in seeing the maps. Daryl ... From: L. A. Nadybal To: borderpoint@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday,
    Message 1 of 16 , Oct 6, 2007
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      I for one would be very interested in seeing the maps.
       
      Daryl

      ----- Original Message ----
      From: L. A. Nadybal <lnadybal@...>
      To: borderpoint@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Friday, October 5, 2007 2:33:13 PM
      Subject: [borderpoint] Re: North-South Korea border crossing

      Has anyone here mentioned that the south Koreans run an economic zone
      in N Korea, where the south's companies hire northerners?
      Also, there is a south korean town within the demilitarized zone
      (south side of the actual line of demarkation, but in the zone,
      nevertheless) , and there are a number of islands off the west coast of
      N Korea that are under UN jurisdiction and otherwise exclaved from S
      Korea. There is also a formally established neutral zone in the Han
      river estuary (at the west end of the demilitarized zone) similar to
      what used to exist between Saudi Arabia and Iraq, etc. I have some
      military maps of these island and neutral areas if anyone is
      interested in scans.
      LN

      --- In borderpoint@ yahoogroups. com, bob beckett <ttekcebb@.. .> wrote:
      >
      > My North Korean trip was limited to the border-straddling huts in
      Panmunjon. It was a USO sponsored day trip from Seoul. I remember
      constantly looking at the door on the North Korean side, while I was
      in that country, thinking that I could get back to South Korea faster
      than they could get to me. My only wish is that I had a better picture
      of my time spent there.
      >
      > Bob Beckett
      > Hollis, New Hampshire, USA
      >
      >
      > ----- Original Message ----
      > From: Dallen Timothy <dtimothy@.. .>
      > To: borderpoint@ yahoogroups. com
      > Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2007 10:55:58 AM
      > Subject: RE: [borderpoint] North-South Korea border crossing
      >
      > I kind of did get in trouble actually, when I visited North Korea.
      We traveled over the border by bus to the Mt Kumgang area. As we were
      loading into the bus in South Korea I noticed that on my visa (not in
      passport but on a separate card), they put citizenship: American.
      While I am a US citizen, I'm also a Canadian citizen, and I was
      traveling on my Canadian passport--I didn't even have my US passport
      with me. At immigration in NK, the tour leader explained to the NK
      officials about the tour company's mistake. They chatted for a while,
      exchanged a few shouts, and I was free to wander about the mountains
      of Southeastern North Korea.
      >
      > It was quite an interesting experience. Barry, you might be
      interested, but I don't know if the entire group is, so I'll be happy
      to email you about some unique happenings while I was there.
      >
      > Cheers,
      > Dallen
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: borderpoint@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:borderpoint @
      yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Barry Arnold
      > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 2:17 AM
      > To: borderpoint@ yahoogroups. com
      > Subject: RE: [borderpoint] North-South Korea border crossing
      >
      > Hi Dallen,
      >
      > It would be great to have more details about your visit to N Korea
      >
      > BArry
      >
      > >From: Dallen Timothy <dtimothy@byu. edu>
      > >Reply-To: borderpoint@ yahoogroups. com
      > >To: <borderpoint@ yahoogroups. com>
      > >Subject: RE: [borderpoint] North-South Korea border crossing
      > >Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 11:08:51 -0600
      > >
      > >Hi Jesper,
      > >
      > >There are three lines: NK-DMZ, SK-DMZ, and NK-SK. Inside the DMZ
      there is
      > >actually an exact line of demarcation, so one can straddle the precise
      > >boundary line. I crossed the DMZ from south to north by bus three
      years ago
      > >and tried to get a snapshot of the demarcation line (it's marked with
      > >little yellow signs), but was immediately 'censored' (prevented) from
      > >taking the picture out the bus window by my South Korean travel
      companion.
      > >He didn't want to get in trouble, but I didn't mind. According to
      one of
      > >the managers of the tour company I used to visit Mt Kumgang in NK,
      I was
      > >the first non-Korean to cross the DMZ by bus!! I hope it's true,
      but who
      > >knows.
      > >
      > >Dallen
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >___________ _________ _________ ___
      > >
      > >From: borderpoint@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:borderpoint @
      yahoogroups. com] On
      > >Behalf Of Jesper Nielsen/Borderbase
      > >Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 11:02 AM
      > >To: borderpoint@ yahoogroups. com
      > >Subject: SV: [borderpoint] North-South Korea border crossing
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >I thought there were two lines
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >NK-DMZ
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >DMZ-SK
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >Anybody elaborate?
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >Jesper
      > >
      > >___________ _________ _________ ___
      > >
      > >Fra: borderpoint@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:borderpoint @
      yahoogroups. com] På
      > >vegne af Doug Murray/Border Films
      > >Sendt: 2. oktober 2007 09:25
      > >Til: borderpoint@ yahoogroups. com
      > >Emne: [borderpoint] North-South Korea border crossing
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >The President of South Korea traveled by road (the Unification Highway)
      > >to North Korea yesterday. He's visiting the North Korean leader at a
      > >summit in Pyongyang.
      > >
      > >The SK president and his wife walked across the border/truce line.
      > >Here's some of the images:
      > >
      > >http://tinyurl. com/2r959d <http://tinyurl. com/2r959d>
      > >
      > >http://tinyurl. com/2dsxz4 <http://tinyurl. com/2dsxz4>
      > >
      > >http://tinyurl. com/3yddgj <http://tinyurl. com/3yddgj>
      > >
      > >Does anyone have good maps of the area?
      > >
      > >Cheers!
      > >
      > >Doug
      > >still in Ghana, West Africa
      > >
      > >--
      > >
      > >Doug Murray Productions/ Border Films
      > >sounds+images+ words
      > >
      > >Takoradi, Ghana, West Africa
      > >04 56 25.5 N
      > >01 45 43.8 W
      > >
      > >And Vancouver, B.C., Canada
      > >
      > >Ghana/mobile: +233.24.665. 665.0
      > >or: +233.20.725. 4169
      > >
      > >North America: +1.206.734.4425 [forwards to Ghana mobile, usually!]
      > >+1.206.333. 0220 [messages/faxes]
      > >
      > >Skype: borderfilms
      > >
      > >
      > >
      >
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    • Peter Tuffley
      ... So would I. MTIA Peter ... On 7/10/2007, at 2:43 PM, Daryl Brown wrote: I for one would be very interested in seeing the maps.   Daryl So would I. MTIA
      Message 2 of 16 , Oct 6, 2007
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        On 7/10/2007, at 2:43 PM, Daryl Brown wrote:

        I for one would be very interested in seeing the maps.
         
        Daryl

        So would I.

        MTIA

        Peter


        ----- Original Message ----
        From: L. A. Nadybal <lnadybal@...>
        To: borderpoint@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Friday, October 5, 2007 2:33:13 PM
        Subject: [borderpoint] Re: North-South Korea border crossing

        Has anyone here mentioned that the south Koreans run an economic zone
        in N Korea, where the south's companies hire northerners?
        Also, there is a south korean town within the demilitarized zone
        (south side of the actual line of demarkation, but in the zone,
        nevertheless) , and there are a number of islands off the west coast of
        N Korea that are under UN jurisdiction and otherwise exclaved from S
        Korea. There is also a formally established neutral zone in the Han
        river estuary (at the west end of the demilitarized zone) similar to
        what used to exist between Saudi Arabia and Iraq, etc. I have some
        military maps of these island and neutral areas if anyone is
        interested in scans.
        LN

        --- In borderpoint@ yahoogroups. com, bob beckett <ttekcebb@.. .> wrote:
        >
        > My North Korean trip was limited to the border-straddling huts in
        Panmunjon. It was a USO sponsored day trip from Seoul. I remember
        constantly looking at the door on the North Korean side, while I was
        in that country, thinking that I could get back to South Korea faster
        than they could get to me. My only wish is that I had a better picture
        of my time spent there.
        >
        > Bob Beckett
        > Hollis, New Hampshire, USA
        >
        >
        > ----- Original Message ----
        > From: Dallen Timothy <dtimothy@.. .>
        > To: borderpoint@ yahoogroups. com
        > Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2007 10:55:58 AM
        > Subject: RE: [borderpoint] North-South Korea border crossing
        >
        > I kind of did get in trouble actually, when I visited North Korea.
        We traveled over the border by bus to the Mt Kumgang area. As we were
        loading into the bus in South Korea I noticed that on my visa (not in
        passport but on a separate card), they put citizenship: American.
        While I am a US citizen, I'm also a Canadian citizen, and I was
        traveling on my Canadian passport--I didn't even have my US passport
        with me. At immigration in NK, the tour leader explained to the NK
        officials about the tour company's mistake. They chatted for a while,
        exchanged a few shouts, and I was free to wander about the mountains
        of Southeastern North Korea.
        >
        > It was quite an interesting experience. Barry, you might be
        interested, but I don't know if the entire group is, so I'll be happy
        to email you about some unique happenings while I was there.
        >
        > Cheers,
        > Dallen
        >
        > -----Original Message-----
        > From: borderpoint@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:borderpoint @
        yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Barry Arnold
        > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 2:17 AM
        > To: borderpoint@ yahoogroups. com
        > Subject: RE: [borderpoint] North-South Korea border crossing
        >
        > Hi Dallen,
        >
        > It would be great to have more details about your visit to N Korea
        >
        > BArry
        >
        > >From: Dallen Timothy <dtimothy@byu. edu>
        > >Reply-To: borderpoint@ yahoogroups. com
        > >To: <borderpoint@ yahoogroups. com>
        > >Subject: RE: [borderpoint] North-South Korea border crossing
        > >Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 11:08:51 -0600
        > >
        > >Hi Jesper,
        > >
        > >There are three lines: NK-DMZ, SK-DMZ, and NK-SK. Inside the DMZ
        there is
        > >actually an exact line of demarcation, so one can straddle the precise
        > >boundary line. I crossed the DMZ from south to north by bus three
        years ago
        > >and tried to get a snapshot of the demarcation line (it's marked with
        > >little yellow signs), but was immediately 'censored' (prevented) from
        > >taking the picture out the bus window by my South Korean travel
        companion.
        > >He didn't want to get in trouble, but I didn't mind. According to
        one of
        > >the managers of the tour company I used to visit Mt Kumgang in NK,
        I was
        > >the first non-Korean to cross the DMZ by bus!! I hope it's true,
        but who
        > >knows.
        > >
        > >Dallen
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >___________ _________ _________ ___
        > >
        > >From: borderpoint@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:borderpoint @
        yahoogroups. com] On
        > >Behalf Of Jesper Nielsen/Borderbase
        > >Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 11:02 AM
        > >To: borderpoint@ yahoogroups. com
        > >Subject: SV: [borderpoint] North-South Korea border crossing
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >I thought there were two lines
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >NK-DMZ
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >DMZ-SK
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >Anybody elaborate?
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >Jesper
        > >
        > >___________ _________ _________ ___
        > >
        > >Fra: borderpoint@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:borderpoint @
        yahoogroups. com] På
        > >vegne af Doug Murray/Border Films
        > >Sendt: 2. oktober 2007 09:25
        > >Til: borderpoint@ yahoogroups. com
        > >Emne: [borderpoint] North-South Korea border crossing
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > >The President of South Korea traveled by road (the Unification Highway)
        > >to North Korea yesterday. He's visiting the North Korean leader at a
        > >summit in Pyongyang.
        > >
        > >The SK president and his wife walked across the border/truce line.
        > >Here's some of the images:
        > >
        > >http://tinyurl. com/2r959d <http://tinyurl. com/2r959d>
        > >
        > >http://tinyurl. com/2dsxz4 <http://tinyurl. com/2dsxz4>
        > >
        > >http://tinyurl. com/3yddgj <http://tinyurl. com/3yddgj>
        > >
        > >Does anyone have good maps of the area?
        > >
        > >Cheers!
        > >
        > >Doug
        > >still in Ghana, West Africa
        > >
        > >--
        > >
        > >Doug Murray Productions/ Border Films
        > >sounds+images+ words
        > >
        > >Takoradi, Ghana, West Africa
        > >04 56 25.5 N
        > >01 45 43.8 W
        > >
        > >And Vancouver, B.C., Canada
        > >
        > >Ghana/mobile: +233.24.665. 665.0
        > >or: +233.20.725. 4169
        > >
        > >North America: +1.206.734.4425 [forwards to Ghana mobile, usually!]
        > >+1.206.333. 0220 [messages/faxes]
        > >
        > >Skype: borderfilms
        > >
        > >
        > >
        >
        > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
        > The next generation of Hotmail is here! http://www.newhotma il.co.uk
        >
        > Yahoo! Groups Links
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
        > Need a vacation? Get great deals
        > to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel.
        > http://travel. yahoo.com/
        >




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