[bolger] Re: sneakbox impressions
- I cannot imagine any financial reward in building a boat. I'd love to
hear about your boat though. I've just got a thing for long, skinny
boats. I'm itching for a new project. I saw a Tennessee in a photo a
few years back and fell hard. I assumed that Idaho was simply an
enlarged version, but apparently I'm mistaken there.
> When I first bought the plans for the Tennessee that I built, I asked
> Bernie about an inboard for that boat. He thought that the boat was
> quick and dirty to stand the investment of an inboard, but I stillthink it
> would be fun. I, personally don't build boats for financialconsiderations
> > I saw the Sneakbox on the Carlson Designs web page. Such a unique
> > charming boat. I've heard it's similar to the Tennessee and Idaho,is
> thatis just
> > correct?
> > What is the beam of the Sneakbox? The narrowness of these things
> > shocking, but I suppose if you widen it 8"-12" you'd reallycompromise the
> > efficiency of the design.amidships
> > What is your reaction to building the Idaho with a full skeg and
> > inboard? I'm studying a 1200cc Subaru conversion, prop limited toabout
> 35prohibitive in
> > hp. Very light (230# all up) and compact. If space is not
> > that skinny hull I'd like to use a 27 hp Universal diesel (under350#
> > rigged. Imagine the range you would have!
> > Say, Gregg, could you cut a set of patterns for a guy?
- It seems like I got 16 mph on my original Mariner 15, so I was hoping for
25+ on my present Evinrude 25. With nothing in the boat but me, I can just
get 22 on a good day with a light ripple on the water. Perfectly flat
water is slower - 20-21. It suprised me that the speed potential was the
same for either prop - maybe I need to split the difference, as I think the
high-pitch prop is slightly lugging the rpm. I don't suspect I'm getting a
good 25 either - what I may need is 35-40 horsepower where I can cruise at
less than full throttle.
Yes, our channel is the Kerr-Mclellan, which is the Verdigris River up here
in Tulsa, OK, flowing to the Arkansas River down in Muskogee. We took our
freedom down the river to the Mississippi and on down to new Orleans a
couple of years ago. About 1000 miles.
>Don't rely on me here, but I doubt if a fair bottom will get you near
>30mph. Each successive unit of speed comes dearer than the last; a
>wild guess says your gain will be pretty small (a 50% gain is
>Is the performance near your expectations, or did you expect 30mph on
>Also, how does she handle at manuevering speeds?
>(Is that the Kerr-cLellan channel you speak of?)
>> The Sneakeasy is 4' wide (I think there is another boat by Jim
>> called the Sneakbox), but is very stable. As with all Bolger's square
>> boats, the chine extends out as far as you can stand. Standing on a
>> gunnel, you would have a tough time pushing that chine, 20+ feet of
>> down very far in the water. Initial stability is very high.
>> I thought a lot about an inboard diesel in the Sneakeasy. I built it
>> the navigation channel, with the first stop at 100 miles. Economy,
>> and speed with the 2-cycle 25 are just OK. I had 2 props pitched at
>> 15 inches (I think): both gave me the same speed - about 20 mph -
>> flat prop seem to run loud (high rpm) and burned all my gas (20 gal)
>> the high pitch ran more quiet with about 1/3 less fuel at 100 miles.
>> still want more like 30 mph, so I plan to fair the bottom and maybe
>> Yes, I can plot patterns.
>> At 11:17 PM 8/2/99 -0500, you wrote:
>> >I saw the Sneakbox on the Carlson Designs web page. Such a unique
>> >charming boat. I've heard it's similar to the Tennessee and Idaho,
>> >What is the beam of the Sneakbox? The narrowness of these things is
>> >shocking, but I suppose if you widen it 8"-12" you'd really
>> >efficiency of the design.
>> >What is your reaction to building the Idaho with a full skeg and
>> >inboard? I'm studying a 1200cc Subaru conversion, prop limited to
>> >hp. Very light (230# all up) and compact. If space is not
>> >that skinny hull I'd like to use a 27 hp Universal diesel (under 350#
>> >rigged. Imagine the range you would have!
>> >Say, Gregg, could you cut a set of patterns for a guy?
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