## Re: [bolger] #501

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• That is a big boat, 250-300 sheets of 1/2 plywood is my guess. A fast, rough build probably could be estimated to take about 10 manhours per sheet. So, 3,000
Message 1 of 6 , Aug 6, 2013
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That is a big boat, 250-300 sheets of 1/2 plywood is my guess.  A fast, rough build probably could be estimated to take about 10 manhours per sheet.  So, 3,000 manhours is the fast estimate, and \$50K would be the cheap end.  If you get into gold plating, or navel gazing those numbers could go up to infinity.

To make your own estimate I strongly suggest building a 1 inch to the foot scale model using cardboard.  Then keep notes of all the pieces and steps.

On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 7:06 PM, Darrell wrote:

Thanks a ton for all the 3-d drawings of #501! Question: roughly how much lumber, and what dimensions, will be needed, and what's the estimated total cost? Just ballpark numbers....

Thanks
Darrell Turner

• what boat is 501? From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network.BruceHallman wrote:That is a big boat, 250-300 sheets
Message 2 of 6 , Aug 6, 2013
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what boat is 501?

From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network.

BruceHallman <hallman@...> wrote:

That is a big boat, 250-300 sheets of 1/2 plywood is my guess.  A fast, rough build probably could be estimated to take about 10 manhours per sheet.  So, 3,000 manhours is the fast estimate, and \$50K would be the cheap end.  If you get into gold plating, or navel gazing those numbers could go up to infinity.

To make your own estimate I strongly suggest building a 1 inch to the foot scale model using cardboard.  Then keep notes of all the pieces and steps.

On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 7:06 PM, Darrell wrote:

Thanks a ton for all the 3-d drawings of #501! Question: roughly how much lumber, and what dimensions, will be needed, and what's the estimated total cost? Just ballpark numbers....

Thanks
Darrell Turner

• I take it this is the liveaboard scow schooner 35 x 11 8 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/files/Liveaboard%20Scow%20Scho oner/ I beg to differ with Bruce
Message 3 of 6 , Aug 6, 2013
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I take it this is the liveaboard scow schooner 35' x 11'8"
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/files/Liveaboard%20Scow%20Schooner/

I beg to differ with Bruce on this materials though. My first guess was that it would take about 120 sheets based on the 70-80 sheets required for loose moose 2 (Info from Bob Wise tallies closely with my calculation from plans and model). I agree that models are a great way to go.

From the article and isometrics my guess is that the panels were designed to be planked from 36' lengths which is 4.5 lengthwise sheets or 9 crosswise sheets.

My guess is:

Bottom panel      18 sheets (double 9)
Bilge panels         18 sheets (double 4.5 each side)
Side panels          9 sheets (single 4.5 each side lengthwise)
Deck                      13 sheets
Bulkheads            12 sheets (3 each BH - overestimated)
Transoms.             3 sheets
Total.     73 sheets + 25% misc. interior = about 100 sheets.

No idea what cost would be where you are. I think I would use 15mm ply instead of 12mm (1/2") if possible for the bottom and bilge panels. You would save 9 sheets if the bilge panels were not doubled. The reason I get less sheets than I estimated above is because the interior is less cut up than Loose Moose as well as the boat being 4' shorter.

Just my thoughts.

Best regards.

David

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> From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network.BruceHallman hallman@... wrote:That is a big boat, 250-300 sheets of 1/2 plywood is my guess. Â A fast, rough build probably could be estimated to take about 10 manhours per sheet. Â So, 3,000 manhours is the fast estimate, and \$50K would be the cheap end. Â If you get into gold plating, or navel gazing those numbers could go up to infinity. Â
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• I think David s estimate is better than mine. And we both agree that building a model would be an excellent idea to work through the detailing issues.
Message 4 of 6 , Aug 7, 2013
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I think David's estimate is better than mine.  And we both agree that building a model would be an excellent idea to work through the detailing issues.

On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 9:08 PM, David wrote:

I take it this is the liveaboard scow schooner 35' x 11'8"

I beg to differ with Bruce on this materials though.
• Thanks for the estimate on the number of sheets of ply....Dave seigler made slac ktide from exterior grade ply.....I m really looking to build #501 as a proof
Message 5 of 6 , Aug 14, 2013
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Thanks for the estimate on the number of sheets of ply....Dave seigler made slac ktide from exterior grade ply.....I'm really looking to build #501 as a proof of concept sailing houseboat....any of you live in social? I would need Lot's a help
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