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  • loosemoosefilmworks
    Well color me interested... But in 4 x 8 sheets it s still going to be glued together and, I expect, unless those glue lines are purple it s not going to be
    Message 1 of 21 , Apr 26 4:15 PM
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      Well color me interested...

      But in 4 x 8 sheets it's still going to be glued together and, I expect, unless those glue lines are purple it's not going to be too awfully boat friendly.

      But my big question is WHAT SORT OF HARDWOOD? Hardwood
      is such a big umbrella it includes everything from balsa to ironwood so a little more info is needful.

      Bob
      http://boatbits.blogspot.com/
      http://fishingundersail.blogspot.com/
      http://islandgourmand.blogspot.com/




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      > OK, its not ply, its solid hardwood 1/4" 4'x8'. So has anyone used it?
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      > --- In bolger@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Stromski <j.stromski@> wrote:
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      > > Then its not plywood, its just "wood". You may want to clarify what you're
      > > looking at, cuz the chance of seeing a sheet of solid wood that's 4x8 are about
      > > zero. My guess is that its some sort of plywood, and it does indeed have glue.
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      > > Subject: [bolger] Re: 1/4 " solid hardwood ply
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      > > Its solid so there isn't any glue in it.
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      > > --- In bolger@yahoogroups.com, welshman@ wrote:
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      > > > Usually that is interior plywood and the glues will not hold up on a boat. Ask
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    • harryjak
      Personal experience says that is not so. And I have had failures on exterior plywood also. The dishwasher test is a good first screening. HJ Most, if not all
      Message 2 of 21 , Apr 26 9:04 PM
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        Personal experience says that is not so. And I have had failures on exterior
        plywood also. The dishwasher test is a good first screening.

        HJ

        Most, if not all plywood is made with exterior glue now.
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        > From: chadnn <chadnn@...>
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      • patricia hong
        It would require a log larger than 4 ft diameter to made a solid wooden panel without glue. It would cost you your children , or more. It would also be
        Message 3 of 21 , Apr 26 9:40 PM
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          It would require a log larger than 4 ft diameter to made a " solid "
          wooden panel without glue.
          It would cost you your children , or more.
          It would also be highly dimensionally unstable and totally unsuitable
          to use to build anything .
          You would be lucky to get a thin piece of veneer that size these days.
          This could not possibly be solid , one piece " wood ".
        • Frank and Jeannette
          its called lumber core where i come from (nj ny)used mostley for cabinet work dont know about the glue
          Message 4 of 21 , Apr 27 6:44 AM
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            its called lumber core where i come from (nj ny)used mostley for cabinet work dont know about the glue
          • phil.bolger
            For broader context on the stuff, there’s always the WIKIPEDIA entry on ‘Plywood’... Susanne Altenburger, PB&F From: Frank and Jeannette Sent: Saturday,
            Message 5 of 21 , Apr 27 7:04 AM
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              For broader context on the stuff, there’s always the WIKIPEDIA entry on ‘Plywood’...
              Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
               
              Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 9:44 AM
              Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: 1/4 " solid hardwood ply
               
               

              its called lumber core where i come from (nj ny)used mostley for cabinet work dont know about the glue
            • sirdarnell
              1/4 veneer cut? Odd. Should be as durable as lumber of that species. You might see what Glen says about it.
              Message 6 of 21 , Apr 27 7:37 AM
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                1/4" veneer cut? Odd. Should be as durable as lumber of that species. You might see what Glen says about it.

                http://www.glen-l.com/wood-plywood/bb-chap5c.html

                --- In bolger@yahoogroups.com, "chadnn" <chadnn@...> wrote:
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              • prairiedog2332
                Even exterior grade glues can fail dishwasher testing due what I have found seems to be starved joints. Poor quality control particularly in plywood from
                Message 7 of 21 , Apr 27 8:51 AM
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                  Even exterior grade glues can fail dishwasher testing due what I have found seems to be starved joints. Poor quality control particularly in plywood from China. Some advertised as "solid core" has  a thicker central core with two onion skins added on the exterior. These outer skins will sometimes wrinkle in places as well. And not all "hard woods" are really all that hard. By definition - "A description applied to woods from deciduous broad-leafed trees (Angiosperms). The term has no reference to the actual hardness of the wood." 

                  Nels

                  Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/hardwood#ixzz2RgBFBN3X


                  --- In bolger@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
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                  > For broader context on the stuff, there’s always the WIKIPEDIA entry on ‘Plywood’...
                  > Susanne Altenburger, PB&F
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                  > Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 9:44 AM
                  > To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
                  > Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: 1/4 " solid hardwood ply
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                • jdmeddock
                  I wonder how they keep it from crawling off they racks once the un-band the pallets? How do they get it flat when manufactured? Justin
                  Message 8 of 21 , Apr 28 6:14 AM
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                    I wonder how they keep it from crawling off they racks once the un-band the pallets?
                    How do they get it flat when manufactured?

                    Justin



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                    > 1/4" veneer cut? Odd. Should be as durable as lumber of that species. You might see what Glen says about it.
                  • Mason Smith
                    Folks, this thread is nonsense. Can we end it, please? From: bolger@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jdmeddock Sent: Sunday, April
                    Message 9 of 21 , Apr 28 7:46 AM
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                      Folks, this thread is nonsense. Can we end it, please?

                       

                      From: bolger@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jdmeddock
                      Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 9:14 AM
                      To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
                      Subject: [bolger] Re: 1/4 " solid hardwood ply

                       

                       

                      I wonder how they keep it from crawling off they racks once the un-band the pallets?
                      How do they get it flat when manufactured?

                      Justin

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                      > 1/4" veneer cut? Odd. Should be as durable as lumber of that species. You might see what Glen says about it.

                    • phil.bolger
                      Oh, come on, Mason. Some folks just like to talk solid hard wood and stuff... I must say that I feel quite ‘inferior’ with my predilections for that darn
                      Message 10 of 21 , Apr 28 8:08 AM
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                        Oh, come on, Mason.
                        Some folks just like to talk solid hard wood and stuff...

                        I must say that I feel quite ‘inferior’ with my predilections for that darn domestic farm-grown softwood Douglas-Fir-habit I’ve acquired.
                        Perhaps, there’s a 12-step angle to help me  ?

                        Susanne
                         
                        Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 10:46 AM
                        Subject: RE: [bolger] Re: 1/4 " solid hardwood ply
                         
                         

                        Folks, this thread is nonsense. Can we end it, please?

                        From: bolger@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jdmeddock
                        Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 9:14 AM
                        To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
                        Subject: [bolger] Re: 1/4 " solid hardwood ply

                         

                        I wonder how they keep it from crawling off they racks once the un-band the pallets?
                        How do they get it flat when manufactured?

                        Justin

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                        as durable as lumber of that species. You might see what Glen says about it.

                      • Michael Childs
                        In 40 plus years of woodworking, I have never seen a piece of solid wood 4 x 8 . The only wood product that size is plywood. Regardless of what the yard is
                        Message 11 of 21 , Apr 28 9:27 AM
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                          In 40 plus years of woodworking, I have never seen a piece of solid wood 4' x 8'. The only wood product that size is plywood. Regardless of what the yard is telling you, it is plywood, probably with a solid core. Think about it. Go to a lumber yard and find a mahogany plank 24" to 36" across (They do exist). Then imagine some sort of saw cutting it into planks 1/4" thick. Impossible. 
                           
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                        • prairiedog2332
                          Perhaps an intervention called for? Can envision this as reality TV show subject. Dr. Phil; So Susanne, when did you first become attracted to farm-grown
                          Message 12 of 21 , Apr 28 9:38 AM
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                            Perhaps an intervention called for? Can envision this as reality TV show subject.


                            Dr. Phil; "So Susanne, when did you first become attracted to farm-grown Douglas Fir and how is that working for you?" 


                            Nice to see some lightness on a thread!


                            Nels



                            --- In bolger@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
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                            > Oh, come on, Mason.
                            > Some folks just like to talk solid hard wood and stuff...
                            >
                            > I must say that I feel quite ‘inferior’ with my predilections for that darn domestic farm-grown softwood Douglas-Fir-habit I’ve acquired.
                            > Perhaps, there’s a 12-step angle to help me ?
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                            > Susanne
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                            > From: Mason Smith
                            > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 10:46 AM
                            > To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
                            > Subject: RE: [bolger] Re: 1/4 " solid hardwood ply
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                            > Folks, this thread is nonsense. Can we end it, please?

                          • phil.bolger
                            Well, it was a grey and stormy day along the coast of the Pacific Northwest. There I was amongst them... and...well, I’m not sure I should continue... –
                            Message 13 of 21 , Apr 28 9:44 AM
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                              Well, it was a grey and stormy day along the coast of the Pacific Northwest.  There I was amongst them... and...well, I’m not sure I should continue... – at any rate. YES I ADMIT IT – I’VE USED DOUG FIR...soft-wood Doug Fir...and, em...
                              At any rate. There ‘it is’.  ‘nough sed !
                              Susanne
                               
                              Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 12:38 PM
                              Subject: [bolger] Re: 1/4 " solid hardwood ply
                               
                               

                              Perhaps an intervention called for? Can envision this as reality TV show subject.

                               
                               
                              Dr. Phil; "So Susanne, when did you first become attracted to farm-grown Douglas Fir and how is that working for you?"
                               
                               
                              Nice to see some lightness on a thread!
                               
                               
                              Nels
                               
                               

                              --- In bolger@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
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                              > Oh, come on, Mason.
                              > Some folks just like to talk solid hard wood and stuff...
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                              > I must say that I feel quite ‘inferior’ with my predilections for that darn domestic farm-grown softwood Douglas-Fir-habit I’ve acquired.
                              > Perhaps, there’s a 12-step angle to help me ?
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                              > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 10:46 AM
                              > To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
                              > Subject: RE: [bolger] Re: 1/4 " solid hardwood ply
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                              > Folks, this thread is nonsense. Can we end it, please?

                            • Mason Smith
                              What, Susanne, is somebody dissing fir plywood in this group? I didn’t catch that. If I stay away from fir ply myself, and I mostly do, it’s because I
                              Message 14 of 21 , Apr 28 12:40 PM
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                                What, Susanne, is somebody dissing fir plywood in this group? I didn’t catch that. If I stay away from fir ply myself, and I mostly do, it’s because I don’t like glassing anything I don’t have to glass, and I don’t much like multi-coating with epoxy if I don’t have to, either.

                                 

                                From: bolger@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of philbolger@...
                                Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 11:09 AM
                                To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
                                Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: 1/4 " solid hardwood ply

                                 

                                 

                                Oh, come on, Mason.
                                Some folks just like to talk solid hard wood and stuff...

                                I must say that I feel quite ‘inferior’ with my predilections for that darn domestic farm-grown softwood Douglas-Fir-habit I’ve acquired.
                                Perhaps, there’s a 12-step angle to help me  ?

                                Susanne

                                 

                                Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 10:46 AM

                                Subject: RE: [bolger] Re: 1/4 " solid hardwood ply

                                 

                                 

                                Folks, this thread is nonsense. Can we end it, please?

                                From: bolger@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jdmeddock
                                Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 9:14 AM
                                To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
                                Subject: [bolger] Re: 1/4 " solid hardwood ply

                                 

                                I wonder how they keep it from crawling off they racks once the un-band the pallets?
                                How do they get it flat when manufactured?

                                Justin

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                              • phil.bolger
                                No, just a lame attempt at out-doing the silly with more... Susanne From: Mason Smith Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 3:40 PM To: bolger@yahoogroups.com Subject:
                                Message 15 of 21 , Apr 28 1:06 PM
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                                  No, just a lame attempt at out-doing the silly with more...
                                  Susanne
                                   
                                  Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 3:40 PM
                                  Subject: RE: [bolger] Re: 1/4 " solid hardwood ply
                                   
                                   

                                  What, Susanne, is somebody dissing fir plywood in this group? I didn’t catch that. If I stay away from fir ply myself, and I mostly do, it’s because I don’t like glassing anything I don’t have to glass, and I don’t much like multi-coating with epoxy if I don’t have to, either.

                                  From: bolger@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of philbolger@...
                                  Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 11:09 AM
                                  To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
                                  Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: 1/4 " solid hardwood ply

                                   

                                  Oh, come on, Mason.
                                  Some folks just like to talk solid hard wood and stuff...

                                  I must say that I feel quite ‘inferior’ with my predilections for that darn domestic farm-grown softwood Douglas-Fir-habit I’ve acquired.
                                  Perhaps, there’s a 12-step angle to help me  ?

                                  Susanne

                                  Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 10:46 AM

                                  Subject: RE: [bolger] Re: 1/4 " solid hardwood ply

                                   

                                  Folks, this thread is nonsense. Can we end it, please?

                                  From: bolger@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jdmeddock
                                  Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 9:14 AM
                                  To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
                                  Subject: [bolger] Re: 1/4 " solid hardwood ply

                                   

                                  I wonder how they keep it from crawling off they racks once the un-band the pallets?
                                  How do they get it flat when manufactured?

                                  Justin

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                                  > 1/4" veneer cut? Odd. Should be
                                  as durable as lumber of that species. You might see what Glen says about it.

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