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Re: [bolger] Large, big, long Diablo OR "Samuel B Clyde"?

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  • Hugo Tyson
    Look, I m  sure you seem to be thinking about the SPamuel B Clyde featured in BWAOM (Boats With A Open Mind). I haven t got the book at hand but seem to
    Message 1 of 3 , Dec 27, 2010
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      Look, I'm  sure you seem to be thinking about the "SPamuel B Clyde" featured in BWAOM (Boats With A Open Mind). I haven't got the book at hand but seem to remember that the boat is about 31' long by about 8' beam and powered by a fuel hungry Mercruiser i/o drive of about 160HP and gives a dissapointing speed of maybe 20-22 K.t.s flat out. Trim was also a bit weird? ..was she down in the bow, can't quite remember! It was designed and built for use on the Intracoastal waterway of the Eastern US but may be ok in a seaway if you're brave enough. It looks like a Knife-bowed Water-Truck or Waterborne Camper Van but not of the boxy type.

      From: Maximo <grupos@...>
      To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Mon, 27 December, 2010 11:18:53 PM
      Subject: [bolger] Large, big, long Diablo

       

      I remember seeing a large kind of Diablo with a small cabin, but I don t
      remember if I saw it in a book, or the internet

      (I am not talking about Diablo Grande, it was other design)

      I am looking for the closest Bolger desing to the "panga" or "yamaha"
      working fishing boats.

      Thanks in advance for the info. Regards, Máximo.


       
    • daschultz2000
      Samuel Clyde doesn t have a small cabin, it s really close to live-aboard class, and excellent for coastal cruising. So the original FMS seems much more
      Message 2 of 3 , Dec 28, 2010
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        Samuel Clyde doesn't have a "small" cabin, it's really close to live-aboard class, and excellent for coastal cruising. So the original FMS seems much more likely to be the correct boat.

        In the essay/chapter Bolger did question the trim of Samuel Clyde and suggested a change in the outdrive angle. He thought Sam' would be faster with the change but also wrote that the boat was already faster than the design criteria. The builder liked the trim angle as it was.

        I don't think Bolger designed a better power boat in the size range than Samuel Clyde.

        Don

        --- In bolger@yahoogroups.com, Hugo Tyson <hhetyson@...> wrote:
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        > Look, I'm  sure you seem to be thinking about the "SPamuel B Clyde" featured in
        > BWAOM....
      • sirdarnell
        I looked it up in BWAOM. Phil says Samuel B Clyde is similar in shape to his Diablo. It is designed to go out on New York lakes, canals and the Great Lakes.
        Message 3 of 3 , Dec 28, 2010
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          I looked it up in BWAOM. Phil says Samuel B Clyde is similar in shape to his Diablo. It is designed to go out on New York lakes, canals and the Great Lakes. The speed issue is mentioned (max 23 mph, faster than asked for (16 mph)), Phil says he thinks the motor is trimmed to far forward, but owner likes the way it runs flat (no bow lifting) at any speed, so left it alone.

          --- In bolger@yahoogroups.com, Hugo Tyson <hhetyson@...> wrote:
          >
          > Look, I'm  sure you seem to be thinking about the "SPamuel B Clyde" featured in
          > BWAOM (Boats With A Open Mind). I haven't got the book at hand but seem to
          > remember that the boat is about 31' long by about 8' beam and powered by a fuel
          > hungry Mercruiser i/o drive of about 160HP and gives a dissapointing speed of
          > maybe 20-22 K.t.s flat out. Trim was also a bit weird? ..was she down in the
          > bow, can't quite remember! It was designed and built for use on the Intracoastal
          > waterway of the Eastern US but may be ok in a seaway if you're brave enough. It
          > looks like a Knife-bowed Water-Truck or Waterborne Camper Van but not of the
          > boxy type.
          >
          >
          > ________________________________
          > From: Maximo <grupos@...>
          > To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
          > Sent: Mon, 27 December, 2010 11:18:53 PM
          > Subject: [bolger] Large, big, long Diablo
          >
          >  
          > I remember seeing a large kind of Diablo with a small cabin, but I don t
          > remember if I saw it in a book, or the internet
          >
          > (I am not talking about Diablo Grande, it was other design)
          >
          > I am looking for the closest Bolger desing to the "panga" or "yamaha"
          > working fishing boats.
          >
          > Thanks in advance for the info. Regards, Máximo.
          >
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