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  • Mark Albanese
    Bud, That s this one again. Cruiser files here. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/files/Power%20Sharpies/ There are no finished plans, but it s all pretty
    Message 1 of 5 , Apr 18, 2010
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      Bud,

      That's this one again. "Cruiser" files here.
      There are no finished plans, but it's all pretty basic.

      As attachments, you'll see a version of this hull roughed out with a 6' beam. It's stretched from Jim Michalak's 18' AF4 Casa, producing the identical profile and with the same flare. The depth to breadth ratio is still very good for low power running, the bow still pretty fine, and, I'm thinking, both with a little more room to sprawl and perhaps being somewhat more able. 


      Ross pointed out to me that for a similar sized boat the Bolger Sharpshooter shown here is another good option. Depending on where you will cruise, this is both fast and able.

      Mark


      On Apr 18, 2010, at 8:07 PM, bud_4444 wrote:

      While looking at the photos yesterday I saw Turtle 2 and think she may be the right boat for my wife and I to cruise in both comfortably and economically. I've looked but have not been able to find more information on her. Will someone please tell me the thickness of the bottom, sides, deck and top. Please also tell me her dry weight and explain the layout inside the cabins. If you can send me a link with more information on her it would be greatly appreciated. Where do I buy plans for her? Thanks for your help. Bud


    • bud e
      Mark, Thank you for your reply.  My problem is that I hope to pull the boat with a Pontiac Vibe which has a maximum trailer weight of 1500 pounds, so the boat
      Message 2 of 5 , Apr 21, 2010
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        Mark,

        Thank you for your reply.  My problem is that I hope to pull the boat with a Pontiac Vibe which has a maximum trailer weight of 1500 pounds, so the boat and trailer should weight about 1000 pounds.

        Have you seen the Bolger Clam Cabin Skiff named Grinder?  You can find it by going to Google and typing in Grinder Cabin Clam Skiff.  A blog for it will come up ( you have to page down to it) and also an article on it at Duckworks will come up.  Please read about it.  What I like so much is the layout.  Very good for two people.  Only problem is the MPG.  If made longer and lighter it should get fantastic MPG.  But it has to be built strong enough so the hull won't get holed if it hits something.

        I love the idea of an enclosed pilot house but I think my weight limitations rule this out.

        This will be my first time building a boat so the build can't be to difficult.  I might build a smaller boat first to learn about building.  I'll also build a scale model of the larger boat I build.  This should help out quite a bit.

        My wife and I plan on living on the boat I build for a few weeks or longer at a time and we hope to trailer the boat about 1500 one way miles from Michigan.  If you have any suggestions I would love to hear them.

        Thanks again for your help.

        All the best,

        Bud 

        --- On Mon, 4/19/10, Mark Albanese <marka97203@...> wrote:

        From: Mark Albanese <marka97203@...>
        Subject: [bolger] Re: Turtle 2
        To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
        Date: Monday, April 19, 2010, 12:00 AM

        Bud,

        That's this one again. "Cruiser" files here.
        There are no finished plans, but it's all pretty basic.

        As attachments, you'll see a version of this hull roughed out with a 6' beam. It's stretched from Jim Michalak's 18' AF4 Casa, producing the identical profile and with the same flare. The depth to breadth ratio is still very good for low power running, the bow still pretty fine, and, I'm thinking, both with a little more room to sprawl and perhaps being somewhat more able. 


        Ross pointed out to me that for a similar sized boat the Bolger Sharpshooter shown here is another good option. Depending on where you will cruise, this is both fast and able.

        Mark


        On Apr 18, 2010, at 8:07 PM, bud_4444 wrote:

        While looking at the photos yesterday I saw Turtle 2 and think she may be the right boat for my wife and I to cruise in both comfortably and economically. I've looked but have not been able to find more information on her. Will someone please tell me the thickness of the bottom, sides, deck and top. Please also tell me her dry weight and explain the layout inside the cabins. If you can send me a link with more information on her it would be greatly appreciated. Where do I buy plans for her? Thanks for your help. Bud



      • Mark Albanese
        Bud, My Yaris pulls a thousand pounds quite easily - though I have not tried it up any steep mountains. I m quite sure that Cartoon #9, light trailer and
        Message 3 of 5 , Apr 22, 2010
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          Bud,

          My Yaris  pulls a thousand pounds quite easily - though I have not tried it up any steep mountains. I'm quite sure that Cartoon #9, light trailer and supplies would be in that weight range.

          Modifying, stretching, or inventing out of whole cloth can cause a lot of head scratching all right. You'd do well to stick with something already detailed. And everyone here will recommend both modeling and starting small.

          Clam Skiff is a beauty. Several weeks at a time together in a cabin that size might prove your compatibility though, I think. Others have done it. The cabin can be quite small if there's also a decent cockpit to sprawl in, which makes me think of Sharpshooter again for you.

          Where will you be cruising? Not Lake Superior? 1/4, 3/8 and 1/2 inch construction is adequate for a good many purposes.

          I'm guessing you've ruled out Tennessee as too large and as pushing the weight limit.
          Do you want to go fast or are sailboat speeds enough?

          This one pushes the weight a bit too, but with or without the sail, oh what a boat!


          Perhaps others here have some ideas for you.

          Best wishes,
          Mark


           
          On Apr 21, 2010, at 7:03 PM, bud e wrote:

          Mark,

          Thank you for your reply.  My problem is that I hope to pull the boat with a Pontiac Vibe which has a maximum trailer weight of 1500 pounds, so the boat and trailer should weight about 1000 pounds.

          Have you seen the Bolger Clam Cabin Skiff named Grinder?  You can find it by going to Google and typing in Grinder Cabin Clam Skiff.  A blog for it will come up ( you have to page down to it) and also an article on it at Duckworks will come up.  Please read about it.  What I like so much is the layout.  Very good for two people.  Only problem is the MPG.  If made longer and lighter it should get fantastic MPG.  But it has to be built strong enough so the hull won't get holed if it hits something.

          I love the idea of an enclosed pilot house but I think my weight limitations rule this out.

          This will be my first time building a boat so the build can't be to difficult.  I might build a smaller boat first to learn about building.  I'll also build a scale model of the larger boat I build.  This should help out quite a bit.

          My wife and I plan on living on the boat I build for a few weeks or longer at a time and we hope to trailer the boat about 1500 one way miles from Michigan.  If you have any suggestions I would love to hear them.

          Thanks again for your help.

          All the best,

          Bud 



        • gravelyrider
          ... I had a Vibe and it towed a similar sized boat just great. I would also tow a Gravely Garden tractor with attachments and never had an issue. Gravely s
          Message 4 of 5 , Apr 22, 2010
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            > Thank you for your reply.  My problem is that I hope to pull the boat with a Pontiac Vibe which has a maximum trailer weight of 1500 pounds, so the boat and trailer should weight about 1000 pounds.

            I had a Vibe and it towed a similar sized boat just great. I would also tow a Gravely Garden tractor with attachments and never had an issue. Gravely's are HEAVY.

            At the Kingston Messabout a few years ago, I was pulling the boat out with the Vibe and wondered why all the gravel under the tires was making such a racket. Turns out I had the emergency brake on and I was towing the boat, trailer and rear wheels locked up, all without any problem. I had the standard engine and auto transmission.
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