Re: [bolger] Re: Micro Navigator
- On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 9:15 AM,
>Realistically, the Micro Navigation usually goes at exactly the
> I have a micro and was considering doing a sort of navigator conversion. I
> currently have a junk rig on my micro and would not change that to the
> Chinese Gaff as I am very happy with the Junk Rig.
> Can you explain how you have found the Navigator? I am concerned that the
> Micro is very poor to windward - i.e. the lee way it gives is very high
> particularly in any tidal stream. I have been considering putting some for
> of lee board on to help reduce the leeway.
> Any thoughts?
maximum hull speed for a 15'4" displacement boat which is not very
fast. The obvious solution when I am a hurry to go to windward, or to
buck a current, is that I fire up the outboard. The Micro Navigator
is a highly comfortable and effective pocket cruiser. It is not a
boat to fuss about squeezing perfection of a couple points of leeway.
It is a great boat to relax in and kick back with a cup of tea and
read a book while you wait for the wind to shift making that leeway
And I would think that the rigging of a true junk rig might be hard to
handle from inside a Navigator cabin. The Chinese Gaff has that
mizzen mast/staff which is key to handling the main sheets to clear
the cabin roof from inside the cabin.
- Hi, Stefan---I am going to be at the museum for lunch with this visiting group at 12:30, so if you come along at 1:00 or soon after we can easily connect. I take it you know the way. When you arrive at the Adirondack Museum you can wheel into the parking lot. If still at lunch I will be just across the entrance/exit driveways, downhill a bit, in the conference building with big log posts supporting the entrance roof. And Pelican is uphill under the parking deck, on the second level of the parking, towards the right end.When I finish lunch I'll come out looking for you. I'll carry a phone, 518 524 8266, but we can't count on cell service.If you won't be there quite soon after one, I hope you can let me know some time before 12:00. Perhaps what I'll do is go over there earlier, soon,to spend some time with the visiting group in the morning, and cut out on the rest of their activities after lunch. anygate, it would be nice to know your ETA if much different from 1:00.Just got a message from Doc Musekamp who said you had been considering the Jochems. He and I have been talking about various swaps and builds. Best---Mason----- Original Me, ssage -----From: Stefan TopolskiSent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 3:16 PMSubject: Re: [bolger] Re: Micro Navigator
Still planning on this Saturday.You asked for a reminder - what time would you like? After lunch but well before dusk?Give a call - 413 768 9100 - or let me know how to call you that day.Thanks!
All the Best,Stefan"One gathers peace as a feather in the palm of one's hand." -anonymousOn Nov 10, 2009, at 8:38 AM, Adirondack Goodboat wrote:Mason here. My feeling is that the keel of Micro is enormously strong, strength coming first from its being a thick sandwich of lead and plywood, the plywood constituting tensile skins over the hard core, second from the strong curvature of its uppe r edge where its skins are united to the shoe which follows the rocker and is heavily fastened. The keel cannot bend laterally without coming off the boat at the ends. Also, you'll see that the swinging plate, if anybody ever tries the idea, cannot be very large in area. It has to fit in the shadow of the extant keel when up. This will keep its forward or upper end rather narrow. It could widen toward the bottom end but I think not much, lest it bend.----- Original Message -----From: reddoc000Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 8:48 PMSubject: [bolger] Re: Micro Navigator
Re: micro windward performance
I gather the boat is designed to motor into the wind as most sensible people do, but i would love to give up the visuals of an engine hanging off the back. Mason's idea really beats any i've had so far to modify a micro to reduce leeway. Can the keel handle the lateral stress and the torque of such a metal plate bolted onto the keel?
--- In bolger@yahoogroups. com, "adkgoodboat" <masonsmith@ ...> wrote:
> Re the question of improving a Micro's windward performance, some of us had a chat on that topic here awhile back. I proposed simply through-bolting a plate alongside the Micro's keel, and rigging a simple pendant for it to run up to the bottom, aft to one of the well-drains, and up to a cleat. Some of the gang seemed to think it a worthwhile experiment. I'm still thinking of it but haven't done it, having so much fun with the Micro as it is. And being full busy. Mason
> --- In bolger@yahoogroups. com, "mmer@" <martin.me.roberts@ > wrote:
> > Bruce,
> > I have a micro and was considering doing a sort of navigator conversion. I currently have a junk rig on my micro and would not change that to the Chinese Gaff as I am very happy with the Junk Rig.
> > Can you explain how you have found the Navigator? I am concerned that the Micro is very poor to windward - i.e. the lee way it gives is very high particularly in any tidal stream. I have been considering putting some for of lee board on to help reduce the leeway.
> > Any thoughts?
> > Martin